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jobs in metal plating

Got a friend from Massachussets who is interested in coming over- he is a specialist in metal plating and he is 53. Does anyone know the industry and could comment on his chances. And be prepared to talk to him about it (by e-mail or FB). Very grateful, cheers.
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Media Fleecestealer will be along presently to dash his dreams by reminding him that the IRS is just a reincarnation of Inspector Javert and that Americans are required by law to live under a bridge and eat cabbage water for dinner.
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Old 14.06.2015, 20:10
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Media Fleecestealer will be along presently to dash his dreams by reminding him that the IRS is just a reincarnation of Inspector Javert and that Americans are required by law to live under a bridge and eat cabbage water for dinner.
I believe that places under the bridge can be made available to US citizens only if it can be shown only that no suitably qualified EU-17, EU-8. EU-2 or EFTA citizens can be found for such a vacancy.
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No, I expect Odile's already pointed all that out to him.
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Hell no, it is you that lives in constant Misery...

I told him I'd enquire to see if anyone on Ef knows the industry.
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Media Fleecestealer will be along presently to dash his dreams by reminding him that the IRS is just a reincarnation of Inspector Javert and that Americans are required by law to live under a bridge and eat cabbage water for dinner.
I believe that places under the bridge can be made available to US citizens only if it can be shown only that no suitably qualified EU-17, EU-8. EU-2 or EFTA citizens can be found for such a vacancy.
That's no problem because there are enough bridges. But most spots below bridges have no mail address, so they can't be inhabited by US citizens because the IRS hatchet men won't find them.
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Friend has now logged on to EF- so it would be nice if you cut the **** and try to give honest but friendly, useful answers. Cheers.
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Friend has now logged on to EF- so it would be nice if you cut the **** and try to give honest but friendly, useful answers. Cheers.
Uhh! They wern't?
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Friend has now logged on to EF- so it would be nice if you cut the **** and try to give honest but friendly, useful answers. Cheers.
American with a job that doesn't have a big demand...........not much chance, possible but very unlikely especially as he's 53 years old. Any language skills ?

There you go, honest and to the point.
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Re: jobs in metal plating

Will be very difficult but even the blind Wildschwein finds an acorn once in a while. My guess: best options would be in French-speaking CH, dealing with precious metals plating and component suppliers to luxury goods like watch cases, pens and jewellery. Find an industry supplier guide for leads. Even better if have some "hook" like low-environmental impact plating processes, nano-technology, etc.
Second guess: more general metal processing work w/firms dealing with gold recycling (which in a way is really de-plating?), ingot conversion, etc.
Also, google SZS and Buser active in metals industry in Switzerland and high-tech CH firms laying metal substrates for electronics (they really exist)
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Old 14.06.2015, 23:44
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Don't see much aloooominum siding, here - maybe there's a possibility ..... Sales skills, an advantage.
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Re: jobs in metal plating

Assuming he knows his onions and can plate exotic stuff, plastics, restore corroded parts, plate with a variety of metals, then setting up a small custom plating shop could be a viable way of getting in, an own business startup type thing. Classic cars are a big thing here, custom Harley parts, restorations, etc. A lot of people in the classic car business speak English. Would really need to learn German quickly though.

Neuheim might be a good place to set up a shop in the German speaking part. Presumably he has polishing skills? Or could instruct a trainee? He could start out with polishing stainless, alloys, etc, and then branch out into plating (which required more investment) once he has an idea of the market demand.
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Re: jobs in metal plating

Adecco seems to carry many watchmaking industry ads for skilled professionals. It could be used to get some businesses names to inquire further.
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Re: jobs in metal plating

Thnks to those who posted in a more positive frame of mind. If there is anyone here who is linked to that industry, and would be prepared to 'talk' to him- do let us know. Cheers.
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then setting up a small custom plating shop could be a viable way of getting in, an own business startup type thing.
But would self- employment or even starting a business be enough to gain a permit for a non-EU citizen?

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But aside from the non-EU permit issues, your friend should understand what the market - and outlook - for over 50s currently is.

Unemployment among the Ü50 generation is a significant concern, and growing. Firing older workers simply because of their age, to be replaced by younger less expensive employees, is happening more and more these days and is, unfortunately, widely accepted. Swiss citizens over 50, with local language, Swiss education and all the correct certificates, have a very difficult time finding employment. How would a foreigner fare in this climate?

Not to say that it's impossible, but your friend has some very high hurdles to jump.

Now - my pessimistic outlook is based on what is happening among my circle of acquaintances here in the German side. I've said good-bye to several older friends, who after the all-too-common Ü50 layoff, have had their permit renewal denied, despite having been here for years, despite being well-integrated, despite having contributed significantly to Helvetia's coffers.

From other threads, though, it seems that the permit renewal process and resulting decisions vary widely from canton to canton, bureaucrat to bureaucrat. Perhaps the general attitude towards older folk might be a bit more friendly on your side of the Röstigraben.

But as your friend pursues this, he should make sure that his idea of Switzerland isn't tinged by the rose-colored glasses that many of his compatriots seem to wear.
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Unemployment among the Ü50 generation is a significant concern, and growing. Firing older workers simply because of their age, to be replaced by younger less expensive employees, is happening more and more these days and is, unfortunately, widely accepted. Swiss citizens over 50, with local language, Swiss education and all the correct certificates, have a very difficult time finding employment. How would a foreigner fare in this climate?
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