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Re: Is there any use for foreign MBAs in Switzerland?

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I think you need to make one more post and suddenly a couple more buttons appear underneath all posts... I am normally not the one on this forum who give the motivational posts but simply put:

- your Italian passport is worth it's weight in gold for you plan. Thanks to Schengen can you easily move to Switzerland and get a work permit - which is pretty hard for Americans these days.
- don't expect to get an offer in a week. Realistically will you need some months and probably a three digit number of applications. That you aren't around for interviews will make it harder...
Yeah, I'm forever grateful to my Italian ancestors for enabling me to have this passport. However, Italy isn't quite the most...advanced country to live in. I love it, but Switzerland is better in most ways.

Thanks for the heads up. I'm worried about finding a job quickly, but ultimately I know something will eventually turn up. Honestly my big hang ups are the language. I can only learn so much before being immersed. It's almost impossible to become fluent without living in a country that speaks the language you want to learn.
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Old 20.07.2015, 07:44
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You should also be aware that BA and BS are degrees. MA and MS are higher degrees. Students working toward completing their first degrees are undergraduates.
Many Swiss will see this differently and not regard a BS/BA as a full degree, hence the comment. Doesn't matter though as the fact remains he will compete with plenty of people who are all likely to have an MA/MS degree rather than just a BS/BA and the MBA will not be worth more.

OP have you actually lived here or why do you think Switzerland is better in whatever respects?
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Many Swiss will see this differently and not regard a BS/BA as a full degree, hence the comment. Doesn't matter though as the fact remains he will compete with plenty of people who are all likely to have an MA/MS degree rather than just a BS/BA and the MBA will not be worth more.

OP have you actually lived here or why do you think Switzerland is better in whatever respects?
Yes I have lived there before. My major gripe with american "work culture" is that there is very little respect for the worker. I speak to people in my field regularly and they tell me that they work 70 hour work weeks, with only 3-5 days of holiday a year. They say they are given two weeks off (maximum amount until 12 years in the same company) but if they take their full two weeks, they will routinely be passed over for promotions and raises. They miss their families life events, because they cannot leave work. Marriages fall apart all the time for this reason too. It's a really toxic work culture.

And also, as I stated in my previous comment. I was born and raised in the EU. I am much more comfortable in the culture of Switzerland and Scotland than I am in New York or Raleigh.

(And side note, so is my MBA roughly just going to make me the same level of playing field as other Swiss competitors? As far as education goes)
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Re: Is there any use for foreign MBAs in Switzerland?

Just a comment regarding MBA or any degree for that matter.

In my experiences, in Pharma International roles in CH, your degree is only one small part of your value-proposition when looking for jobs. Its "your" whole package based on your prior experiences and more and more your work style.

Whereas a job may list a MBA as a requirement, I don't see many considering where it came from per se, its more of do you have it or not, if its relevant for the job. The MBA or degree you plan to leverage is becomes a tick box by HR staff.

The difference is if you are a newly minted graduate from a full time program, then you would have a struggle like all MBAs to position that as your differentiating leverage point as a substititute for direct work experience. again if full time graduate. However, as you grow over time, where you got your MBA or degree becomes more and more irrelevant.

So don't for get to "tool-up" on other aspects - a lot of Swiss employers are very focused on how you work with others as a key benchmark for hiring combined with the appropriate experiences. Certainly foreign experience is valued a lot.
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Re: Is there any use for foreign MBAs in Switzerland?

Rather than worrying about your MBA, I would worry about your German (French, Italian) skills. That is what is going to land you a job in the end and not the ranking of your MBA.
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Nobody ever gave a flying f*%& about the ranking of my MBA. Me included. Only a very few investment banks and maybe some private equity firms may care, for all the rest: HR or headhunter gets a job profile which typically says "technical degree a must, additional MBA desired". Your degree ticks the box and helps you land the interview, that's all.
Who is nobody? HR specialized in IT? Pharma companies?
That's not the case for front office in IB, associate level in consulting, strategy positions in the industry, etc.
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Re: Is there any use for foreign MBAs in Switzerland?

Hi Whatisgoingtohappen,

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Top 10 ranking MBAs = a must for IB, PE, VC, and consulting.

Your MBA is fine for what you want to do, but I wouldn't stop there.


I would recommend completing a qualification that is internationally recognized in your field such as the STEP (http://www.step-ch-fl.com/public/education/tep.php).

Since they have different chapters in Switzerland it will give you an opportunity to network with other trust professionals.
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