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Re: Rav obbey me to work 2 or 4 hours a week

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Your making things very complicated, all RAV appointments will be in writing even if made during the meeting, you will look a complete twit if you have to ask for confirmation of the date

Only keep copies of jobs you APPLiED for, just seeing a job application won't help.

Wasting time documenting every phone call is nonsense, you are required to apply for about 10 jobs a month just do what is needed.


Yeah, fatmanfilms, maybe I am making things too complicated. That's possible. The advice comes from direct experience.


A friend of mine had a RAV officer who gave him his next appointments during the meeting, but not in writing. He then turned up when he thought she had said, only to find out that the meeting had been on the previous day. Could be that he was dippy, could be that the RAV officer was disorganised. Anyway, after they'd been through the same nonsense a few times - AND he had been financially penalised for not having attended the meeting - he switched to writing everything down while still in her office, as I outlined, and that sorted out the problem.


In his case, phonecalls were specifically accepted as a valid way to apply for a job (= part of the required number of applications), but only when he had documented the call in copious detail.


Another friend became unemployed from a dwindling profession, and there was some discussion about whether the RAV would pay for either vocational counselling or for training in another direction. In her case, she was finally granted vocational counselling only after she had documented all the ads of jobs she had been considering, over and above the required number of applications which she did actualy make.
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just how many of the critics are posting their opinion during paid work hours?
isn't that exactly making something good out of a bad situation?
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Yeah, fatmanfilms, maybe I am making things too complicated. That's possible. The advice comes from direct experience.


A friend of mine had a RAV officer who gave him his next appointments during the meeting, but not in writing. He then turned up when he thought she had said, only to find out that the meeting had been on the previous day. Could be that he was dippy, could be that the RAV officer was disorganised. Anyway, after they'd been through the same nonsense a few times - AND he had been financially penalised for not having attended the meeting - he switched to writing everything down while still in her office, as I outlined, and that sorted out the problem.


In his case, phonecalls were specifically accepted as a valid way to apply for a job (= part of the required number of applications), but only when he had documented the call in copious detail.


Another friend became unemployed from a dwindling profession, and there was some discussion about whether the RAV would pay for either vocational counselling or for training in another direction. In her case, she was finally granted vocational counselling only after she had documented all the ads of jobs she had been considering, over and above the required number of applications which she did actualy make.

Had a huge amount of personal experience, 8 advisors in total.

Your info is second hand & I would take it with a pinch of salt. No doubt your friend lost the written invitation & preferred to make up a story rather than look a fool.
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Your info is second hand & I would take it with a pinch of salt. No doubt your friend lost the written invitation & preferred to make up a story rather than look a fool.


Yes, fatmanfilms, on reflection, that could well be so. Yes.
As I recall, at the time my friend was feeling rather desperate, battling with understanding the system, feeling hard done by when he was ready and able to work, and in a strange emotional turmoil of wanting to get away from the RAV on one hand, and on the other hand feeling that, in some way, the RAV (or some employer or authority) owed him a life.
I think it was remembering his state then, and feeling that there were some similarities to that of surfer37, that made me pass on his experience. It's easy to get dippy (and feel and look like a fool) when desperate.


Wow, I am sorry you've had so much RAV experience, and I'm sure you do, really, know the ropes much better than I do. I hope you have a good, steady work/income situation now.
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