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Old 11.08.2015, 22:57
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

And if you walk around in Wallisellen, there is a portuguese shop in the Schwarzackerstrasse. Why not go there and ask for help?
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

You really don't know portuguese people... there's a portuguese shop nearby my place, I went there for help once but portuguese people are not so good in helping each other as you might think.
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:02
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Only trying to get you some ideas where to get help...............
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:04
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

Living in this country has been teaching me that if I want something done, I need to do it myself. I tried to ask for help many times and most of the times I got in more trouble than I was before I asked.
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:06
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

"Contradictio in terminis" then
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:07
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You really don't know portuguese people... there's a portuguese shop nearby my place, I went there for help once but portuguese people are not so good in helping each other as you might think.
hubby is Portuguese, and from what I could see it's a VERY tight community: they all seem to know each other through distant cousins or something. And they value free help a lot: they constantly swap competences. Whatever we need there's a Portuguese "friend" of my husband who can help us. And we often give hand to them when we can.
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:10
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

I don't know why this is a contradiction but fine...

Mélusine , I didn't mean to say that we are all bad people x)
I'm portuguese and I'm always helping people... sometimes I put myself in a bad place just to help others. I meant to say that outside Portugal, many of us have no interest in helping each other.. and I mean each other, not other people. Portuguese people can be really mean to each other sometimes. I lived in Porrentruy for a year and a half and I had portuguese people there making my life a living hell!!! But of course, I also know one or two that help me as they can
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Living in this country has been teaching me that if I want something done, I need to do it myself. I tried to ask for help many times and most of the times I got in more trouble than I was before I asked.
I'm sorry but you've been giving nothing but help in this thread and given nothing but excuses
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:15
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I'm sorry but you've been giving nothing but help in this thread and given nothing but excuses

I was talking about practical help and in a general way. And I was NOT talking about this thread.
Which excuses am I giving? That I don't have money to use the train? Or that I don't have money to send the documents to porrentruy?
Not that I need to justify myself but I have 1,50chf in my bank account. So you tell me what excuses am I making? When I'm saying I don't eat for a week, and I even have to hear one or two people here talking to me like they're judging me or something.
Walk in my shoes before you say I'm making up excuses.
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:33
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

People please, this is a 21 year old girl on her own in a foreign country. Give her a break.
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Old 11.08.2015, 23:39
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

Thank you Oldhand.. I don't think many people understand what it feels like to be completely alone somewhere with no one to pick us up if we fall. Even my family in Portugal, I can't even talk to them about this not to worry them.. because it hurts them to know that they can't help me no matter how they want to.

This is all my fault because I moved to a different city without knowing what I was getting into. Nevertheless, people should think twice before they judge people they don't know.
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

Jessi, I would really encourage you to accept the kind offer of Oldhand. It is not a shame to accept a short-term loan for food and train tickets (you can always ask for his contact information and pay him back later, once you are settled again). Eating properly is definitely urgent, you really cannot think straight when hungry and stressed.

From what I understand, it will be much better if you visit the RAV in person (at least they will be able to help with sending the proper documents to their destination). Otherwise, what is the alternative? Be stuck at home, hoping that the problem will be solved by itself? Emails do not always work (fast enough), sometimes actual physical presence is required. Once I was stuck at home with a newborn baby waiting for an extremely important official paper to arrive by post. In the end, after three weeks, numerous phone calls and emails, I got fed up, took my (by then one month old) baby and went to the Zivilstadtamt in person to get the issue resolved. Let me tell you, after a couple of hours of waiting (because there was indeed a mix-up and the employees needed to do some work), I had my paper. I believe I would still be waiting if I had only relied on email communication.

By the way, it is going to be hot tomorrow, so unless you are used to hot climates, perhaps walking all the way from Wallisellen to Oerlikon is not a good idea. If it were not that hot, I believe 4.4km each way is not that bad.

Good luck in any case!
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I was talking about practical help and in a general way. And I was NOT talking about this thread.
Which excuses am I giving? That I don't have money to use the train? Or that I don't have money to send the documents to porrentruy?
Not that I need to justify myself but I have 1,50chf in my bank account. So you tell me what excuses am I making? When I'm saying I don't eat for a week, and I even have to hear one or two people here talking to me like they're judging me or something.
Walk in my shoes before you say I'm making up excuses.
I'm not judging you. I've been in your position on unemployment in Switzerland. It's not easy and it's not fun and without the generosity of some EFers I'd be very stuck as well.

I know it's depressing but you need to be a bit more proactive. If you went to the office today you might have gotten this all resolved and have a payment in your account tomorrow!

Good luck
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

Yes, I know you guys are right, and I'm going there tomorrow.. I didn't go today because they answered me really late and I was worried about not having money for the ticket. Even if I had thought about going on foot, I'm not sure I would be there in time given that they answered really late and they close at 16h30.

I understand that some of you might think that I need to be more "proactive" but what you don't understand is that I'm dealing with problems such as this for an entire month! When I moved there was problems in the gemeinde because the woman that rented me the room didn't ask for permission to the landlord, and I needed that permission so I could ask for a new permit and a confirmation they had to give me in the gemeinde so I could start with my registration in the RAV and so on and so on... this has been an entire month dealing with all this completely alone and having to fill documents in german and etc, all by myself, and I'm just exhausted! If someone's to blame is probably me, I'm the one who got out of her "comfort zone" but I had my reasons to leave and just because I did it I don't think I deserve some things that are happening to me... of course that is no one's fault... I'm just saying this so that some people may understand where I'm coming from. Life has not been easy on me, especially since I came to this country, and I've been here for too long with no one to support me. So this is not me not being proactive, this is me feeling exhausted.

Anyway, thank you all, I'm going there tomorrow as I said and I hope everything will be ok soon.
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Re: RAV Oerlikon - help!

Take bottles of water with you - or at the very least an empty large bottle. Refill this bottle at fountains. In Switzerland you can drink the water from fountains if there is no "Kein Trinkwasser" or "Non potable" plaque on them. Tomorrow'll be very hot, so if you're going to do this trek without getting in serious danger of dehydration and possibly collapse, you need to drink lots and lots of water.
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Take bottles of water with you - or at the very least an empty large bottle. Refill this bottle at fountains. In Switzerland you can drink the water from fountains if there is no "Kein Trinkwasser" or "Non potable" plaque on them. Tomorrow'll be very hot, so if you're going to do this trek without getting in serious danger of dehydration and possibly collapse, you need to drink lots and lots of water.
I accepted Oldhand's offer... she will bring me a ticket so I can use the train
Thank you for the suggestions anyway
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I accepted Oldhand's offer... she will bring me a ticket so I can use the train
Thank you for the suggestions anyway
Take one bottle along anyway - you're probably nervous and maybe there's a long wait ahead.
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Living in this country has been teaching me that if I want something done, I need to do it myself. I tried to ask for help many times and most of the times I got in more trouble than I was before I asked.
Life taught me this as a child.. how did you manage to get to adulthood?
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Life taught me this as a child.. how did you manage to get to adulthood?
Congratulations on being such a well balanced and mature person. It looks like the life of hard knocks has left you full of compassion and understanding.
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