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Old 15.08.2015, 18:04
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My tools or company tools?

If I find work in Switzerland as a mechanical artisan(monteur, schlosser) or even as a mechanical technician, what is the norm regarding the tools for the job? Are these normally your own personal tools that you use or does the company issue you with the tools for the job?
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Re: My tools or company tools?

If you were to hire on a company that falls under the GAV (general work agreement) for metal workers in Switzerland, the answer is the company should provide the tools. See this excerpt:

Art. 20 Pflichten des Arbeitgebers
20.7 Abgabe von Material, Werkzeug und Unterlagen
Der Arbeitgeber händigt dem Arbeitnehmer rechtzeitig aus:
a) das erforderliche Material;
b) die notwendigen Arbeitsunterlagen;
c) das geeignete und sich in gutem Zustand befindende Werkzeug. Dieses
Werkzeug muss abgeschlossen gelagert werden können. Darüber wird
ein Inventar aufgenommen und von beiden Parteien unterzeichnet.

http://www.plkm.ch/fileadmin/media/d...22_05_2014.pdf
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Old 15.08.2015, 21:50
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If I find work in Switzerland as a mechanical artisan(monteur, schlosser) or even as a mechanical technician, what is the norm regarding the tools for the job? Are these normally your own personal tools that you use or does the company issue you with the tools for the job?

As noted, the GAV does clearly say that the company has a duty to provide the correct tools in good condition. Depending on the company you may be assigned a toolkit, and allowance for wear and tear, or you just request replacements in the event that something breaks. The tools are "yours" in the sense that you are the only one who uses them, but they remain company property. It isn't common practice here for a journeyman to bring his own tools, but I have seen it - here you would get an allowance for wear and tear on your tools, and they remain your private property.


Is your question is "I have a vanload of Snap-on, Brown&Sharpe, and Starret tools, should I pay to ship them?" or "Will I have a huge upfront to kit myself out for the first work day?"
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Old 15.08.2015, 22:42
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Re: My tools or company tools?

Basically yes, I am trying to determine whether I need to ship my tools along with my furniture as I will need them for work or if they are supplied.




If supplied, then it would be better for me to sell them on this side. To replace what I have in CH would set me back in the region of 2500CHF new (online pricing). Ouch!!
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Re: My tools or company tools?

Bring them.

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Bring them.

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Then you can do jobs on the side as well.
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Re: My tools or company tools?

I would say bring them. If you are like me, you've probably spent a fair bit on good tools. It won't cost that much to ship them if you anyways have a container, or part thereof. You won't _need_ them for work, but you can use them at home, or if you end up freelancing, or going on your own. Used tools don't sell for much, so you would take a hit if you try to unload them.


Aside from that... one can never have too many tools.
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Old 16.08.2015, 23:19
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Re: My tools or company tools?

Thanks for the advice. From the responses you are all giving, I am coming to the conclusion that there is a fair demand for odd jobs to be done.


I agree that one can never have too many tools especially when they are the source of your livelihood.
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Old 16.08.2015, 23:22
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one can never have too many tools especially when they are the source of your livelihood.
Or necessary for one's hobbies.

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From the responses you are all giving, I am coming to the conclusion that there is a fair demand for odd jobs to be done.
There is indeed, as many Swiss firms are not interested in small projects - and DIY seems to be less common here than in other countries.

However, may I suggest that if you go this route, please make sure you have the necessary insurances, registration if needed, etc.?

Setting yourself up properly could give you a competitive advantage, by the way.
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Then you can do jobs on the side as well.
Not sure my old lady would be so happy about that.....
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