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Work in one canton and live in another

Please pardon my ignorance in asking a bit of a simple question, but are you allowed to be employed in one canton and live in another canton or does this cause complications?
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Old 24.08.2015, 06:42
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

Depends on nationality and type of permit. So where are you from and what is your permit status?
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Old 24.08.2015, 08:01
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

Good question mate. I wouldnt mind knowing the answer too.
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Old 24.08.2015, 08:53
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

Gechoe is Swiss, so no problem about permits etc.
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Gechoe is Swiss, so no problem about permits etc.
Well then, the answer is yes, you can live in Zurich and work in Zug, plenty of people do this !
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

I live in Basel-Stadt and work in Basel-Land. No issues whatsoever. No additional paperwork needed, nothing. Hope this helps

P.S: I'm here on a B permit (EU citizen).
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Old 24.08.2015, 10:17
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

Have lived and worked in different cantons as a non EU on a B permit as well.

Permit took longer to arrive but it's allowed.
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

You then pay taxes in the C/Kanton where you live, not the one where you work- which may make quite a bit of difference.

So many factors come into this though, as taxes maybe higher in one C/Kanton but with better services for your circumstances, or much lower rents, etc- you need to take all into consideration.
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Old 24.08.2015, 12:09
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You then pay taxes in the C/Kanton where you live, not the one where you work- which may make quite a bit of difference.

So many factors come into this though, as taxes maybe higher in one C/Kanton but with better services for your circumstances, or much lower rents, etc- you need to take all into consideration.
Here in Zug we have low taxes and services, as far as I can see at least, are very good. Just what additional services do higher tax cantons provide? I previously lived in high tax Geneva and can't say that I found services there to be better than in Zug. Rents there weren't cheaper either.
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You then pay taxes in the C/Kanton where you live, not the one where you work- which may make quite a bit of difference.

So many factors come into this though, as taxes maybe higher in one C/Kanton but with better services for your circumstances, or much lower rents, etc- you need to take all into consideration.
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Here in Zug we have low taxes and services, as far as I can see at least, are very good. Just what additional services do higher tax cantons provide? I previously lived in high tax Geneva and can't say that I found services there to be better than in Zug. Rents there weren't cheaper either.
The lower tax cantons attract rich people and businesses, therefore I imagine the service levels can be just as good or higher than higher-tax-cantons.

Rents being lower, that does seem to be the case though. eg one sees higher rents in BaselLand (lower tax) neighboorhoods compared to their adjacent Basel Stadt counterparts.

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The lower tax cantons attract rich people and businesses, therefore I imagine the service levels can be just as good or higher than higher-tax-cantons.

Rents being lower, that does seem to be the case though. eg one sees higher rents in BaselLand (lower tax) neighboorhoods compared to their adjacent Basel Stadt counterparts.
In Steuerparadis Schwyz prices for equivalent housing, especially purchase, seem to be the same or lower than in Zürich where one pays far higher taxes.

I would guess that housing prices around the Zürichsee are more influenced by scarcity rather than tax rates.
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Here in Zug we have low taxes and services, as far as I can see at least, are very good. Just what additional services do higher tax cantons provide? I previously lived in high tax Geneva and can't say that I found services there to be better than in Zug. Rents there weren't cheaper either.
Absolutely, that is why I said you have to look at the whole package- taxes, rents, services YOU require, depends very much if you have children too. For instance if you have several children and 2/3rds of childcare is paid for you (not means tested)- and rents are very low (like under 2000 for large 9 rooms, 2 bath flat with large garden, cellar, attic, etc (not Geneva of course!)- oh and several dogs, here there are no limits and 70CHF per year per dog - then it can balance in your favour. Just depends on your own particular circumstances. And of course school systems do vary too- some Cantons are part of Harmos and have stopped rigid selection at 11 (like here in NE) others have not, etc, etc.

If you can buy a nice villa for bout 1/2 mil, and save 70CHF per day on childcare and you have 4 children and a few dogs - do the sums Horses for courses- all I am saying is, take all the elements together before making a decision.

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You then pay taxes in the C/Kanton where you live, not the one where you work- which may make quite a bit of difference.

So many factors come into this though, as taxes maybe higher in one C/Kanton but with better services for your circumstances, or much lower rents, etc- you need to take all into consideration.
In my experience was the tax not higher because a canton offered "better services" but mostly due to higher costs for social payments. The city of Zurich for example has a much higher burden due to unemployment and welfare cases than the rich villages along the lake.

Zug or Schwyz simple actively use the rather weird Swiss tax system to attract rich people by offering low rates. I could not make our any difference in the efficiency of the government. If anything was the opposite true - since there were far less foreigners than in Zurich was the migration office of Schwyz always faster than the one in ZH.
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since there were far less foreigners than in Zurich was the migration office of Schwyz always faster than the one in ZH.
Well Zug is full of foreigners (like me) and I have found the migrationsamt to be very efficient.
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Absolutely, that is why I said you have to look at the whole package- taxes, rents, services YOU require, depends very much if you have children too.

Thank you all for the info, it is of great help.


Please could I then ask for opinions on which cantons would be better to look at if my circumstances are as follows:
2 Children (currently schooled in Africa) who will have to learn and adapt to Swiss life and learn German as well.
2 small dogs and a cat.
I am a humble working class type person (mechanical tradesman)


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Old 24.08.2015, 17:38
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

Probably not Zurich but one of the more rural cantons, Thurgau is very nice and not so far from Zurich if you find work in the city area.

Glaris has a high quality of life so i understand, it all really depends on if you want a healthy lifestyle or the bright lights
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

Have you got a job and permit yet? If you have a job ligned up, then of course you will have to live fairly close, no?

How old are the children? And of course, you could choose a French speaking area too, not German (or indeed Italian).
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Re: Work in one canton and live in another

Glarus is wonderfully unpretentious: there's still a bit of industry round here, people are down to earth, and it's dirt cheap.

It's quite pretty too.
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Glarus

New Glarus Dog Law, as of 1 Jan 2014

http://www.tierimrecht.org/de/tiersc...cht/glarus.php

I agree that Glarus might be a good fit for Gechoe, but he should understand that 2 dogs in the same household requires a permit. Shouldn't be a problem as they are small dogs and so likely won't have to stand one of the tests. But dog owners should consider cantonal dog law when deciding where to move.

(The link above is a summary of the GL law, from the Tier Im Recht website. Actual text of the law is linked at the top of the TIR page.)
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Glarus is wonderfully unpretentious: there's still a bit of industry round here, people are down to earth, and it's dirt cheap.

It's quite pretty too.
Wot............Cheaper than some dive in Neuchatel ?
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