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Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

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Just wanted to check if expats (EU or Non EU) are allowed to do 2 jobs, i.e. one being your legal and taxed job and the other being a part time second job.
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Hi Guys,

Just wanted to check if expats (EU or Non EU) are allowed to do 2 jobs, i.e. one being your legal and taxed job and the other being a part time second job.
An EU citizen who has an unrestricted B permit can do WTF he wants. If your on a restricted permit you can't, the clue is in the word 'restricted'
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

I am not sure if you are allowed to be contracted more than 100% though
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I am not sure if you are allowed to be contracted more than 100% though
In Switzerland it always ends up going back to money, if you have 1 job that pays 100k a year and another job that pays 100k a year it will be assumed you work 50% for each
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

Yes, as long as your 2nd job is also legal and taxed; from your OP it implies it isn't .
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Old 05.10.2015, 17:26
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Yes, as long as your 2nd job is also legal and taxed; from your OP it implies it isn't .
I also read it like that - a bit of 'black' work on the side ..... which kind of makes the question irrelevant, though.
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

The main issue is that you probably won't be allowed to get an extra paid job by your first employer that easily. Read your contract, they are very creative when it comes to restrictions. You'll always be the one having to convince your first employer that the second job will not impact your productivity in the first job at all and on the longer term. Good luck with it.
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

Quite a few of us do this quite a lot. During the ski season I work many weekends as an instructor, which in no way conflicts with my full-time Mon-Fri job.

Generally one or other will be regarded as the main job, for example for accident insurance purposes. So if I have an accident while teaching a ski lesson all costs would be covered by the Ski School's policy, but once I'm out of uniform my main employer's cover would be responsible.

And of course you'll need to do a tax return to declare this second income, as it can't/wont be done as PAYE/quellensteuer . The 2nd employer will need all your details anyway so this cannot in any way be viewed as optional.
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

If there are laws which restrict standard working hours (45-50 hours per week depending on sector) and extra hours to 2 hours per day (max 170/140 hours per year), then are those limits still valid when there are multiple employers? If so, then who is legally responsible if those hours are breached?

https://www.ch.ch/en/overtime-and-extra-hours/
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Quite a few of us do this quite a lot. During the ski season I work many weekends as an instructor, which in no way conflicts with my full-time Mon-Fri job.

Generally one or other will be regarded as the main job, for example for accident insurance purposes. So if I have an accident while teaching a ski lesson all costs would be covered by the Ski School's policy, but once I'm out of uniform my main employer's cover would be responsible.

And of course you'll need to do a tax return to declare this second income, as it can't/wont be done as PAYE/quellensteuer . The 2nd employer will need all your details anyway so this cannot in any way be viewed as optional.
The tax office in CH will only know what they are told by the taxpayer (or read on EF ) they don't have access to the AVS/AHV records
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If there are laws which restrict standard working hours (45-50 hours per week depending on sector) and extra hours to 2 hours per day (max 170/140 hours per year), then are those limits still valid when there are multiple employers? If so, then who is legally responsible if those hours are breached?

https://www.ch.ch/en/overtime-and-extra-hours/
Thats the companies responsibility so you can't work 200% for 1 employer.
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Old 05.10.2015, 18:21
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Thats the companies responsibility so you can't work 200% for 1 employer.
But has anyone broken the law if you work at total 150% for two?
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But has anyone broken the law if you work at total 150% for two?
I'm not sure it's breaking the law per se, but one or other of the employers (the main one) by virtue of their insurance policy, would probably be in breach of their responsibilities if you did. On an annual basis, this would be.

Similarly, if you're off sick from one job you'd better not be doing the other one, even if it's just the weekends, unless you've been given express permission, and/or a doctor's note to authorise it.
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

Ok Guys,

Reading through other forums I got to know that after an individual has completed 4 yrs on a restricted B permit (EU or non EU) he gets a renewed B unrestricted permit.

Difference between Unrestricted B and restricted B

Out here in Dubai doing 2 jobs is illegal however some individual besides their 1st legal job under employer A do a second part time job under under employer B the salary of which goes unrecorded however since we do not pay tax it doesnt matter. but if your caught by your employer/authorities your fined or deported. does the same rule apply there?
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Ok Guys,

Reading through other forums I got to know that after an individual has completed 4 yrs on a restricted B permit (EU or non EU) he gets a renewed B unrestricted permit.

Difference between Unrestricted B and restricted B

Out here in Dubai doing 2 jobs is illegal however some individual besides their 1st legal job under employer A do a second part time job under under employer B the salary of which goes unrecorded however since we do not pay tax it doesnt matter. but if your caught by your employer/authorities your fined or deported. does the same rule apply there?
No, Switzerland is not Dubai, most EU passport holders have the right to live in Switzerland if they choose to. Non EU passport holders don't.

The authorities would never know unless you complained yourself.....
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

It is not legaly forbiden to work 200% !!!
It's more question if you are able to do it in long term and what your company says.
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

I was planning to do a normal legal job and on the sidelines take up web development projects as a freelancer in HTML5, CSS3, PHP, JS and MySQL and if possible Drupal as well to earn an extra income.
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I was planning to do a normal legal job and on the sidelines take up web development projects as a freelancer in HTML5, CSS3, PHP, JS and MySQL and if possible Drupal as well to earn an extra income.
I would say ignore all the advice you get here and just do whatever you like - the worst they can do is fire you from your main job and take away your permit.
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I would say ignore all the advice you get here and just do whatever you like - the worst they can do is fire you from your main job and take away your permit.
Which for a non-EU isn't a good idea. No permit, no work, leave country!
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It is not legaly forbiden to work 200% !!!
It's more question if you are able to do it in long term and what your company says.
No you are completely wrong - it is legally forbidden to work more than the maximum hours.

The employer has a duty of care; how it works out if you have two jobs and don't honestly declare the hours to the employers is a different point, but normally your contract has a requirement to inform them of any additional work for exactly this reason.
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Re: Are expats in Switzerland allowed to do 2 jobs at the same time

so Is an EU Passport holder allowed to do 1 legal job (of Company A) and another part time job (of Company B) without informing his employer (Company A).
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