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My partner who is from Iceland (and currently living there and working as a fisherman) might be moving to Zürich soon since we are expecting a baby.
We are not married and he only speaks English, Icelandic and some Danish. What are the jobs that he could expect to find around here? Can he actually sign up as a 'Nebenmieter' at my apartment considering he does not have a work contract as such? I have no idea what the current immigration laws are and if only 'highly qualified' people have a chance of entering the country?


This is all pretty complicated stuff. If anyone has any advice please get in touch. Also if you have any advice regarding child care which does not cost approx 3000.- a month please send me a link!
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My partner who is from Iceland (and currently living there and working as a fisherman) might be moving to Zürich soon since we are expecting a baby.
We are not married and he only speaks English, Icelandic and some Danish. What are the jobs that he could expect to find around here? Can he actually sign up as a 'Nebenmieter' at my apartment considering he does not have a work contract as such? I have no idea what the current immigration laws are and if only 'highly qualified' people have a chance of entering the country?


This is all pretty complicated stuff. If anyone has any advice please get in touch. Also if you have any advice regarding child care which does not cost approx 3000.- a month please send me a link!
Well clearly he isn't going to get a job as a fisherman, so unless you tell us what other skills he has then it's hard to make assumptions. Manual labour or waiting staff jobs usually require local language knowledge.

Providing your salary is good enough, his alternative could be providing the childcare while you work, at least for the first year. You may need to get married in Iceland first though so that he can come here permanently.
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Providing your salary is good enough, his alternative could be providing the childcare while you work, at least for the first year. You may need to get married in Iceland first though so that he can come here permanently.
Stay at home dad, doing odd jobs on the side, is an option.

My BIL did that, though his odd jobs consisted of building their dream house, barn, and most of their furniture, while doing such work for others.

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Stay at home dad, doing odd jobs on the side, is an option.

My BIL did that, though his odd jobs consisted of building their dream house, barn, and most of their furniture, while doing such work for others.

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that is quite cool though! I have a few friends (although women) who did the stay at home, hobby for some pocket money that turned into a full time gig for them.

I'd not pay 3000 for childcare if you have dad there to help!
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He can do any kind of job, he does not want to work as a waiter though.


He is quite strong and could work in a warehous for example. There you do not need German skills I think. He speaks fluent English, Danish and Icelandic so I need to check whether those languages could be useful somwehere.


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Well clearly he isn't going to get a job as a fisherman, so unless you tell us what other skills he has then it's hard to make assumptions. Manual labour or waiting staff jobs usually require local language knowledge.

Providing your salary is good enough, his alternative could be providing the childcare while you work, at least for the first year. You may need to get married in Iceland first though so that he can come here permanently.
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He can do any kind of job, he does not want to work as a waiter though.

He is quite strong and could work in a warehous for example. There you do not need German skills I think. He speaks fluent English, Danish and Icelandic so I need to check whether those languages could be useful somwehere.
I wouldn't be so sure that even a manual warehouse job requires zero German. How will he take verbal instructions on where to move the stuff? If there is a problem how will he express himself? How can he receive feedback?

The vast majority of English-speaking jobs are not low-end manual labour, they are the higher-end of the market likely requiring higher education and/or relevant experience. Either that or in an English/Irish bar or restaurant.

If I were you I would get him learning German asap. sin 6 months he has a good basic grasp of the language
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He is quite strong and could work in a warehous for example. There you do not need German skills I think.
You most certainly do, otherwise how would he understand what to do (either orally or written)?

The people in charge will most likely NOT speak English or Danish, nor will the other workers.

That said, one can certainly pick it up, kmowing Danish should make it easier pick up German.

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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

As an Icelander, he would fall under the immigration rules for EU/ EFTA citizens. This is clearly an advantage.

There is commercial fishing at Lake Constance (Bodensee) and some at Lake Geneva. Possibly there would be something for him there. For further information, search on "Berufsfischerei Bodensee", e.g.:

http://www.bodensee-fischer.ch/
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How old is he, could he start an apprenticeship? I expect the best solution is for you to move to Iceland.
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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

As an ETFA national seeking work shouldn't be a problem, but bear in mind that the Swiss will not see you as a couple, due to being unmarried, but as two separate persons so he'll need to show he can support himself financially while he looks for work. You could look at applying for a concubine permit for him - in this case you have to agree to be financially responsible for him for 5 years. Check with the Zurich migration office on what documents you/he need to provide.

https://www.ch.ch/en/cohabiting

As for living with you, check with your landlord/agency if it's okay or not. He can't just turn up and move in without their permission, especially if you want to add him as a tenant on the rental contract.

Some German will certainly help as yes, he'll need to take instructions from others who may or may not speak English, work documentation he may need to deal with will be in German, plus his employment contract will be in German too.
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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

I don't think a move to Iceland would be a good idea. It is fairly remote and I would feel stuck there.


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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

Thank you for the useful advice.


I will check it out.


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As an Icelander, he would fall under the immigration rules for EU/ EFTA citizens. This is clearly an advantage.

There is commercial fishing at Lake Constance (Bodensee) and some at Lake Geneva. Possibly there would be something for him there. For further information, search on "Berufsfischerei Bodensee", e.g.:

http://www.bodensee-fischer.ch/
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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

I think German is pretty much an absolute must-have.

See this job, for example:
http://www.jobs.ch/de/job/Fahrzeuge-...704506/108/1/0

"Gute Deutschkenntnisse in Wort und Schrift"

"Just" for driving a fork-lift around...

His Icelandic dialect is probably too strong to just claim he's from a remote valley in the Valais ... ;-)

Switzerland has almost no fishing-industry - almost everything is imported. The few remaining fishermen get stories in newspapers then and now, in the "curiosities"-section.

I have no doubt that one can feel "stuck" in Iceland, given it's location, geography, population-density and climate - but I also fear that when he moves here, he will miss all of it, too. A lot probably. He being a fisherman etc.
Can you picture yourself with him in a smallish 3.5 room flat somewhere near the Airport or in the Agglo?

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but he could try to get a job on an "Alp" in the summer:
http://www.zalp.ch/index3.php?conten...ellen-angebote

They need hard-working hands-on people there. Not smooth-talkers.
The basic vocabulary you can probably teach him in a week.


Good luck to both of you.
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The work in the Alpine agriculture is so hard that many people run away from it before season ends.
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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

I don't deny that (though I've never worked there, just seen the occasional documentary).
But if OP's partner looks anything like this:
https://www.google.com/search?site=&...57.PCPR1LrTLyo

There's a glimmer of hope he won't run away too soon ;-)
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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

He did not like the fact I live in Zürich already, he thought it was a pretty dull place. Hence you could be right about a small apartment in the suburbs. I would be pretty much depressed if I had to live there and he would go insane after a while aswell. But I think having a family keeps you busy and working on a boat having kept the job and never seeing your own family does not make sense either in the long run. I cannot have a long distance family / relationship.


Thank you for the job link but I cannot send him to the Alps then we would be separated which does not make sense. I will do some further research.


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I think German is pretty much an absolute must-have.

See this job, for example:
http://www.jobs.ch/de/job/Fahrzeuge-...704506/108/1/0

"Gute Deutschkenntnisse in Wort und Schrift"

"Just" for driving a fork-lift around...

His Icelandic dialect is probably too strong to just claim he's from a remote valley in the Valais ... ;-)

Switzerland has almost no fishing-industry - almost everything is imported. The few remaining fishermen get stories in newspapers then and now, in the "curiosities"-section.

I have no doubt that one can feel "stuck" in Iceland, given it's location, geography, population-density and climate - but I also fear that when he moves here, he will miss all of it, too. A lot probably. He being a fisherman etc.
Can you picture yourself with him in a smallish 3.5 room flat somewhere near the Airport or in the Agglo?

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but he could try to get a job on an "Alp" in the summer:
http://www.zalp.ch/index3.php?conten...ellen-angebote

They need hard-working hands-on people there. Not smooth-talkers.
The basic vocabulary you can probably teach him in a week.


Good luck to both of you.
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Re: Job Search / Immigration Icelanders

he actually could participate in a competition for 'strong men'. or work as an extra for this 'Vikings' series. haha.


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I don't deny that (though I've never worked there, just seen the occasional documentary).
But if OP's partner looks anything like this:
https://www.google.com/search?site=&...57.PCPR1LrTLyo

There's a glimmer of hope he won't run away too soon ;-)
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