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QA jobs?

I am originally from Seattle. I am 38 years of age. I married a swiss woman and I live near Interlaken. Permit B

I worked 5 years for for Boeing as an aircraft assembler and (for the last three years) as a QA inspector. I have also worked as a commercial construction foremean (Ironworker), petrol industry deep sea diver, welder, and general mechanic.... Starting a German language course in October, but english only for now. Have car, will travel if necessary. Any suggestions?

I have looked through this and many other forums. I have visited most of the frequently mentioned job sites (jobs.ch, jobscout24.ch, indeed, monster, etc)

Almost all of these jobs are biotech, management, science or banking. Almost all these jobs require VET, swiss apprenticeship completion, or some other advanced degree.

How do I find private companies run by english speaking individuals who might hire an industrial background american with no university degree? At this point I'd even volunteer if it meant getting practical experience and networking that would eventually become employable skills after I learn german.

Pardon the tone of frustration. I never thought finding a job would be so difficult with my wide range of industrial skills and experience.
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Old 23.09.2016, 14:32
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Re: QA jobs?

You might be qualified for an Erwachsenenlehre. It looks that you have no formal qualifications, but a lot of experience - did I get that right? https://www.berufsberatung.ch/dyn/show/7193
German is a must, though.
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Re: QA jobs?

Thank you for the reply.

You have it right. Lots of experience, no formal education.

I am going to fast track the german learning phase of my integration. However, I would like to find something... *anything* to do with my time between now and then. Sitting still does not suit me well.
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I fully understand that - mixing with people will also help to learn the language.

How about some volunteering?

http://benevolbern.ch/fuer-freiwillige/

There is also http://www.tixibern.ch, a taxi service for handicapped people, they are always searching for volunteers.

You can also ask the Gemeinde if they have something to do for you till you find a real solution.

And get yourself acquainted with the local Feuerwehr (firemen) http://www.feuerwehr-boedeli.ch your skills could be needed there.
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Old 23.09.2016, 14:52
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Re: QA jobs?

did you look at the page www.jobvector.ch
I think it is a really good page, not only for jobs but to learn the name of companies that use the page. it is written that is for ingenieure too, so maybe you'll find something interesting.
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Re: QA jobs?

Netflix also gives you a chance to learn some High German. Put the movies on German and use English subtitles or do it the other way round.
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Re: QA jobs?

I'm pretty much in the same situation like you... I'm a Qality coordonator i work allready in French part of a Switzerland.. i move in Zurich for familial reason and ill try to find something to work ( more closer to zurich ) in field of quality.
I have a SAQ certification ( Swiss Association for Quality) i speak english, french, italian a bit of spanish... but no german.
I speak whit a lot of HR managers.. all ask me the same question... Tell me how do explain at worker who speak only german that he is out of surveillence limits? Or to make a presentation about quality in english when all or almost all the workers speak german?
Then speak german make sense.
The english jobs in quality are mostly in pharma..but you and i we dont have pharma background.
I understand your frustration... i make 5 hours a day go/back to work...but that its the price to pay till i learn german.
Take some intensive courses of Deutch i bet once you speak some german( B1 or close) you will find the job also..
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Re: QA jobs?

OP,

If you know basic German, you could volunteer at the fire department in your area. I bet you will do well once people get to know you and your extensive set of skills.

Good luck!
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Old 23.09.2016, 16:05
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Re: QA jobs?

Maybe try and concentrate and highlight on one or two key skills rather than a long list. Airplane fitter and mechainic fit together and show you are motivated to work, first as a mechanic then you learnt new improved skillls for the same sort of work to improve yourself and be more use to an employer.

This shows motivation to me, where as all the rest could imply desperation to work without really caring too much about in which field.

The Swiss are not so keen on "Jack of all trades, master of none" they prefer specialisation and a precise skill set for most things.
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Re: QA jobs?

Thank you all for the suggestions. I think I will try the fire department after I complete a basic german course. Gives me something to do while the job search continues...
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Re: QA jobs?

You might try Pilatus Flugzeugwerke in Stans, or check their job postings often. I have seen some in the past for positions that don't require German, though likely require more formal education. They are hiring for a 'Montage-Mechaniker', and also for a 'Quaitätsprüfer Montage' but you'd need B1/B2 level German:

http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/inde...det=0000000204
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Re: QA jobs?

And also, though it may seem obvious, are you putting on your CV that you have a B permit? To hire a non-EU national is difficult for employers here so make it clear that you have a B permit which makes you easier to hire.

This is the criteria for hiring of non-EU nationals and what employers have to do to be able to employ them.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

So you can see how difficult it would be for you, especially without any formal qualifications - except that you have that vital B permit which wipes all that hassle away. Make sure employers know that when applying for jobs.

Also there are a couple of sticky threads in this part of the forum which list English speaking companies who may be looking to hire so check their websites out too.
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Re: QA jobs?

If you haven't done so already, you should consider registering with the Swiss job service. There's an office in Internlaken. RAV will assist anyone who is legally residing in Switzerland.

Another aircraft company in Switzerland is UMS Skeldar, based in Möhlin AG. It produces drones and is affiliated with Saab:

http://umsskeldar.aero/company/careers/
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Re: QA jobs?

Thanks for the tip about UMS Skeldar. I applied.

I am also registered at the local RAV.
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Re: QA jobs?

You mention work in the aircraft industry: A few years back I knew two guys (one Welsh the other a Saffer) who both found work at Geneva airport on the aircraft maintenance side and both of them could only speak English. Unfortunately I have lost contact with them now.

You could start by trying at Belp airport.
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If RAV has given you access to jobagent.ch with a code, I believe you can perform advanced searches on "English", "gering qualifiziert" (limited skills), etc.

In addition to the job boards listed at the aso.ch link below, you might also want to search on jobs.ch and indeed.ch (you may already know these):

http://aso.ch/en/consultation/back-t...-to-find-a-job

Many "local" jobs are listed on free websites such as:

http://www.anibis.ch/de/job-job-ange...px?sf=dpo&so=d

http://www.tutti.ch/ganze-schweiz/stellen-kurse

http://stellenmarkt.liliput.ch/stell...e/jobs-stellen

In addition to production work, you might be able to find work in a warehouse as an English speaker.

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Re: QA jobs?

If you are near Interlaken, ski season is coming.
You may be able to get some seasonal work in the resorts, or maybe even Interlaken itself.
Not ideal, could be could for German practice though.
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