Hi everyone. I know all of the restrictions and what is allowed with a B permit as the spouse of a Swiss citizen. However, I get the feeling that most Swiss in HR do not know this? I have already specified on my CV that I am married to a Swiss citizen, and it states so on the copy of my residency permit that I send with every application.

Is there any other way I could make it clear that as the holder of a spousal B permit that I:

- can work in another canton, as I am applying primarily to jobs in Zurich, but the permit is from Aargau. When most HR people see a B permit, do they not think that this is restricted to the canton of issuance? Is there a way to make it clear this restriction does not apply to me?

- have the same rights as a Swiss citizen in terms of employment, aside from the required small amount of paperwork that a job entails with cantonal authorities. Is it probable that most employers are already aware of this? (i.e. that they are not required to justify awarding me the position when there are Swiss and EU applicants capable of doing the job)


I am not having much luck with my search so far, although I never envisioned finding a job to be easy. I am curious if there is something else I should do to ensure that my ability to work is clear to those reviewing my folder. I am trying to send out at least 15+ applications a week, so any comments would be welcome. The batch for this week is already done, actually waiting downstairs for me to go to the post office, so I would make the changes in the next round of applications.

p.s. Oh here come the bomb sirens!

Hi,

Did you finally find such a link? I am looking for the same link and would like to sned it along with my CV.

Would appreciate if you can give any other tips in this regard

Cheers
Anirudh

I hope you are making it very clear on your CV that you are married to a Swiss citizen.

Hi,

I am not married to a swiss citizen. My wife is on "working" B-permit and I am on dependent B-permit.
I have 7+ years of software designing and development experience

Cheers
Anirudh

Try witing your CV or one,not mentioning that you are an 'auslander', include everything but that fact.

This way ,they,the prospective employer is not sure what you are, should you get an interview, then take all your papers with you.

You'll get quite a shock when you get an interview, they'll get even a bigger one.


At least this way, you may get past the first hurdle, the real trick is at first,don't let them know you are an 'auslander', let them find out themselves, because if you get to see them, they may like you, aand if they do, voila, you've got yourself a job.

Good luck.

You do not have a right to work as someone married to a Swiss spouse would, if I am not mistaken. Not all B permits are the same. You need an employer to apply for a work permit. I would guess that the process would be somewhat similar to what your wife went through, but I do not know the specifics. There are other explanations of this elsewhere in the forum from people who would have direct knowledge.


If I am not mistaken, you are supposed to include that information on your CV if you are applying from within the country to a Swiss employer. They typically require place of birth, country of citizenship, and residency status. But do whatever you want.

I came accross this link and it seems my B permit can be easily converted
(I am non-EU citizen and from IT field)
http://www.amcham.ch/switzerland/m_e...ork_permit.htm

Pls. let me know if I am wrong in interpreting it.
Also, if I find corresponding link in german it shall be much easier for me while talking to companies

Yes, you are right that it could be converted. But and the big But, is it is not as easy as it sounds. Because coming from a non-EU. It means that you are going to be subject to a quota. That is different from canton to canton. The employer would have to do the paper work. I don't think you could simply apply for a conversion without an employer backing you up.

perhaps not with the quota

That was my only point. Those with a Swiss spouse are not subject to the quota, which is what makes finding an employer more difficult for those without one. Of course it is not impossible. The process for a Swiss spouse, as far as I understand things, and is really just a "formality," whereas in this situation it would involve much more paperwork and effort on the part of an employer.

exactly. Been on the same boat as you are.

It may be " just a formality " but a time consuming formality at that. I recently married my Swiss spouse and so therefore are entitled to a B permit BUT I have to wait for this to come through ( which I am told can take up to 4 months ) and I am NOT allowed to work ( even though I have a contract) until that permit has arrived/been granted.

In short a pain in the ass... just my 2 cents worth

Enjoy
kt

I still can't find work, never mind having the Bewilligung since late October. Then again, I'm not an IT guy. I'm enrolling in University here, as I'm stuck for at least another year .

Wow. Very different from my experience. I am really glad that I married my (Swiss) husband here in Switzerland, it made my life a lot easier. I had my permit very soon after we were married, it was just an automatic process.

why are you stuck for at least another year ?

My advice: Don't put any reference to your marital or residency status in your CV.

I am an American married to a Swiss, so yes, you and I are legally entitled to work in this country. HR will have to apply for a work permit, but this is merely a formality and cannot be refused.

In my opinion, the residency is a non-issue because you have a right to work in Switzerland. Therefore, leave it out of your CV. This was also the approach I took, which seemed to work because I am now employed here in Zurich.

Cheers, Shiny

i'm in the same position (though haven't yet received my B, but applied for it), and will start to apply for jobs in the next couple of months.

regarding leaving nationality off the CV, my only concern would be that when they see you've been educated in the States, UK, they will recognise that you are an auslander and will probably assume that you don't have permission to work since you have provided evidence of any.

My wife is still studying at the University of Zürich and I am not simply going to leave her behind and split up for an extremely long period of time. If I leave in August 2008 (still an *if*) we will still be apart for 6 to 12 months.

You can still include a copy of the residency permit in the dossier at the very back -- that would provide proof of legal residency.

I might as well give it a try -- cannot be any worse than what I've been through so far.

Not at all, in fact the opposite,they will know that your educated abroad, and assume quite rightly that you are applying for the job, because you are legally entiteled to do so.

Try working black here, 'schwarzarbeit', not easy.