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In case of unemployment, rights and duties.

I work in Switzerland from more than 13 months and I've been paying the 1% unemployment insurance out of my salary. My permit lasts until 2013.

-1 Would I be entitled to apply for unemployment insurance in case of fire?
-2 Would I be entitled to apply for unemployment insurance in case of company failure?
-3 Would I be entitled to apply for unemployment insurance in case I fire myself?
-4 How much time does the unemployment wage lasts?
-5 What are rights and duties during unemplyment times other than receiving 70/80% of your timed/avg salary?


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I work in Switzerland from more than 13 months and I've been paying the 1% unemployment insurance out of my salary. My permit lasts until 2013.

-1 Would I be entitled to apply for unemployment insurance in case of fire?
-2 Would I be entitled to apply for unemployment insurance in case of company failure?
-3 Would I be entitled to apply for unemployment insurance in case I fire myself?
-4 How much time does the unemployment wage lasts?
-5 What are rights and duties during unemplyment times other than receiving 70/80% of your timed/avg salary?


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I will answer the ones I know the answers to:
1 - Yes.
2 - Yes.
3 - ?
4 - 400 working days, which if you work full time equals about 18 months.
5 - You have to attend regular meetings with an advisor who will help you to find a new job, and provide evidence at those meetings that you are actively seeking work. They may pay for you to attend various training courses if they feel it would help you get back to work, eg language courses.
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Re: In case of unemployment, rights and duties.

http://www.binational.ch/en/fragen/arbeitslos.html all of your questions answered.

3.
Days without benefit
In the following cases, you may not receive unemployment benefit for a certain period of time (days without benefit):
  • if you hand in your notice without having a new job lined up
  • if you lose your job through negligence on your part
  • if you do not look for a new job during the period of notice
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  • if you hand in your notice without having a new job lined up
Does it mean I cannot fire myself and then ask for assistance and money ?
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Does it mean I cannot fire myself and then ask for assistance and money ?
How do you fire yourself? Are you self-employed?
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How do you fire yourself? Are you self-employed?
I go to my boss and say I leave. No I am not self-employed.
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Re: In case of unemployment, rights and duties.

The word is "quit"....you do not fire yourself, you quit your job
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Does it mean I cannot fire myself and then ask for assistance and money ?
Of course you can darling, they also provide free cigarettes, condoms and beer. Entry is free into all night clubs including free drinks, but no more than 10 per night. Each month you can check into the Dolder for a long weekend of pampering at the spa facilities, if you wish, you can also stay at the hotel, just send the bill to the RAV.

Oh, nearly forgot, you are entitled to 4 weeks holiday, economy flight in Europe only, however if you go long haul, they pay business and really long haul (LA or Australia for instance) push and you get first class. The only real downer is you have to fly Swiss as it^s part of a national "Help Switzerland" campaign.
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The word is "quit"....you do not fire yourself, you quit your job
Then in such case what happens about unemployment, are the rights still there?
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Re: In case of unemployment, rights and duties.

Marzullo, Think carefully.

The economy has not picked up just yet. If you have a B permit, you won't be as easily hired. If you put yourself in the situation where your employment is terminated or if you quit, you might have to wait a long time for unemployment benefits (several months during which you must prove you are looking for a job, but
with no financial compensation)

Settle down a little.
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Re: In case of unemployment, rights and duties.

I see. No I won't quit but is better to know in advance such stuff.
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I see. No I won't quit but is better to know in advance such stuff.
Dear OP,

Thank you for not quitting.

All the tax payers are grateful that benefits need not be paid unnecessarily.

Also every working person pays 1% of salary as unemployment premium. (The employer pays another 1%, which the employee might have otherwise got). The insurance pot is in a big deficit. Unemployment premiums must soon be increased.

So every employed person please stay employed. Thank you.
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Then in such case what happens about unemployment, are the rights still there?
If you wilfully leave work (quit) or are fired for reasons that are determined to be your fault, then you stand to lose up to 30 days of your benefit (six weeks), but otherwise retain your entitlements.
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If you wilfully leave work (quit) or are fired for reasons that are determined to be your fault, then you stand to lose up to 30 days of your benefit (six weeks), but otherwise retain your entitlements.
No, it's much much more than that. Just ask your RAV and find out.
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No, it's much much more than that. Just ask your RAV and find out.
Actually I was told it depends on where you live - it's 30 day here.
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If you wilfully leave work (quit) or are fired for reasons that are determined to be your fault, then you stand to lose up to 30 days of your benefit (six weeks), but otherwise retain your entitlements.
The federal law states that the RAV officer can impose up to 60 working days (12 weeks) without benefits, when the applicant was in some way to blame. So you need a good story, if you quit, why further employment was intolerable.

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Wenn Sie Ihre Pflichten verletzen, werden Sie in Ihrer Anspruchsberechtigung vorübergehend eingestellt. Dies hat zur Folge, dass Sie während einer gewissen Zeit keine Taggelder erhalten.
Dies ist namentlich der Fall, wenn Sie:
  • durch eigenes Verschulden arbeitslos sind;
  • sich persönlich nicht genügend um zumutbare Arbeit bemühen;
  • die Kontrollvorschriften/Weisungen des RAV nicht befolgen, namentlich eine zugewiesene zumutbare Arbeit nicht annehmen, oder eine arbeitsmarktliche Massnahme ohne entschuldbaren Grund nicht antreten oder abbrechen, oder die Massnahme beeinträchtigen oder verunmöglichen;
  • Ihre Wahrheits- und Meldepflichten verletzen;
  • zu Unrecht ALE erwirken (Versuch genügt).
Die Einstellung beträgt je nach Verschulden 1 bis 60 Tage.
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