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15.10.2009, 20:59
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| | | Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies
I have the following situation: I have been working here in Switzerland for about two years and after my contract was over I have moved to Lugano for studying. Now it is obviously, since this is full time studies, I can't claim the benefit right now, but what about later time? One year later after the contract is it still possible? What are the conditions?
If you have any experience with that I would greatly appreciate if you can share your experience and/or knowledge.
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15.10.2009, 22:42
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies
The rules are changing and becoming stricter. Difficult to predict your future eligibility.
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16.10.2009, 06:45
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | I have the following situation: I have been working here in Switzerland for about two years and after my contract was over I have moved to Lugano for studying. Now it is obviously, since this is full time studies, I can't claim the benefit right now, but what about later time? One year later after the contract is it still possible? What are the conditions?
If you have any experience with that I would greatly appreciate if you can share your experience and/or knowledge. | | | | | Maksin, it's been said time and time again on this thread and in other places on the forum and it has not changed one iota
"You have to have worked and paid contributions for at least 12 months out of the last 24"
It's really very simple, both for an applicant of unemployment and to administer to make a simple evaluation as to whether you are entitled to unemployment.
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18.10.2009, 00:39
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies
Hmm, that sounds good, I will try to apply the next year, so that I will have at least 12 months of employment.
I have another question, however, regarding the permit. I still don't have my new permit and it might be that it will be a B student permit (with limited hours per week I am able to work actually). How it can affect the future RAV prospect?
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18.10.2009, 10:41
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies
Why are you looking at future RAV prospects and not future employment prospects?
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18.10.2009, 10:53
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | Hmm, that sounds good, I will try to apply the next year, so that I will have at least 12 months of employment.
I have another question, however, regarding the permit. I still don't have my new permit and it might be that it will be a B student permit (with limited hours per week I am able to work actually). How it can affect the future RAV prospect? | | | | | I hope you don't get a permit if all you want to do is have us who work subsidise your existence by working out how to diddle the RAV system
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18.10.2009, 12:15
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | I hope you don't get a permit if all you want to do is have us who work subsidise your existence by working out how to diddle the RAV system | | | | |
this does seem par for the course at the moment, there was another thread on friday by someone wanting to quit work, still get paid, and get rav too. I wonder why the SVP is doing so well at the moment???
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19.10.2009, 23:51
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies
It's funny all these negative reactions I've got. Actually I am looking for a work prospects and looking very actively for the last half a year. Unfortunately right now is not the best time to look for a job (IT sector for example) and I am considering RAV as a backup option since I think its a waste of time, of my time primarily, but if there is no other option its a kind of salvation right now.
Cheers
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20.10.2009, 15:56
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Hi Maksim, wow u've really raised a racket with ur question about unemployment benefits in Switzerland..All these people should see how it works in italy, where it is a common habit to get temporary jobs, quit them and live for the next 6 months on the RAV,but that's Italy indeed and that's maybe one of the thousand reasons why its economy is so disastrous :-) I think u should contact the Ufficio di collocamento in Lugano, Via S. Gottardo 17,tel. 0041 91 960 46 00, dfe-urclug@ti.ch
They should be able to help u. Good luck!
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20.10.2009, 16:03
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies
Gosh I have to say I am surprised that you would think it would be ok to plan to be out of work in 12 mths so you can claim unemployment benefit.
Yes the market has been hard but why not plan to get a better job so you won't "need" to claim.
Maybe I have just been bought up differently? If you are not good enough at your chosen field to get a job then change tack.
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20.10.2009, 17:54
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | The rules are changing and becoming stricter. Difficult to predict your future eligibility. | | | | | Can you be more specific on this point. 12 months out of the last 24. Please share other information you have on this point?
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20.10.2009, 18:23
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | Can you be more specific on this point. 12 months out of the last 24. Please share other information you have on this point? | | | | | The OP is planning to be unemployed in Y2011 after studying for 1 year! By then the benefit rules will have changed because the unemployment insurance is under deficit pressures.
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20.10.2009, 19:44
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies
Could try signing on now, telling the you plan to take a course, ask them to freeze your payments and then go from there. No idea if they would agree...
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20.10.2009, 20:02
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | Could try signing on now, telling the you plan to take a course, ask them to freeze your payments and then go from there. No idea if they would agree... | | | | | The law is simple, no exceptions. If you have worked and contributed/paid un-employment for at least 12 months (not necessarily consecutive) during the last 24 you are entitled to make a claim for un employment benefit. (although benefits may be refused for a variety of reasons)
If you have not worked/contributed for 12 months over last 24, don't bother claiming, it won't work and they are very tough on this point, 11 months, 3 weeks and 6 days is NOT 12 months !
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21.10.2009, 22:23
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | The law is simple, no exceptions. If you have worked and contributed/paid un-employment for at least 12 months (not necessarily consecutive) during the last 24 you are entitled to make a claim for un employment benefit. (although benefits may be refused for a variety of reasons)
If you have not worked/contributed for 12 months over last 24, don't bother claiming, it won't work and they are very tough on this point, 11 months, 3 weeks and 6 days is NOT 12 months ! | | | | | Yes, I am aware of that, I think I have spent enough time here in Switzerland | 
21.10.2009, 22:24
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | Hi Maksim, wow u've really raised a racket with ur question about unemployment benefits in Switzerland..All these people should see how it works in italy, where it is a common habit to get temporary jobs, quit them and live for the next 6 months on the RAV,but that's Italy indeed and that's maybe one of the thousand reasons why its economy is so disastrous :-) I think u should contact the Ufficio di collocamento in Lugano, Via S. Gottardo 17,tel. 0041 91 960 46 00, dfe-urclug@ti.ch
They should be able to help u. Good luck! | | | | | Thanks a lot! I think I will do just that.
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21.10.2009, 22:25
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, I am aware of that, I think I have spent enough time here in Switzerland  | | | | | Apparently not long enough to learn some sort of work ethic.
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22.10.2009, 20:22
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | Apparently not long enough to learn some sort of work ethic. | | | | | What kind of work ethic?
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22.10.2009, 20:26
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| | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | What kind of work ethic? | | | | | If you don't know by now, it's not the forum that can teach you  ......after all "you have spent enough time in Switzerland" according to my understanding
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22.10.2009, 20:34
| | | | Re: Claiming unemployment after 1 year studies | Quote: | |  | | | What kind of work ethic? | | | | | I'm sorry but you are planning on unemployment and want to be paid to do nothing....what about this don't you understand? This obviously won't make a difference to you but I think it's disgusting. Of course, if someone suddenly finds themselves without work there should be a temporary safety net...but there is always some sort of work to be done. Burger King in HB is hiring, try there.
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