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I am looking for a restaurant that offers Vegan biological food in Zurich. Can anyone help out?

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Re: Vegan and biological food

Please view this thread, hope it helps you
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Re: Vegan and biological food

Try Hiltl (http://www.hiltl.ch/restaurant.php) - it's a vegetarian restaurant that caters to different diets.
They highlight the dishes that are vegan/gluten-free/dairy-free in their menu, so it's easy to pick the type of food you are looking for.

* I'm not sure if all of their food is organic...
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Re: Vegan and biological food

Thanks a lot. Yes i know...Hitl but i was hoping to find something new. I am getting tired of Hitl
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Re: Vegan and biological food

There's SamSes at the bottom of Langstrasse (near Limmatplatz). Technically a vegetarian restaurant but nearly everything on their buffet is vegan, you just have to ask.

And, haven't been to this myself yet, but a while back I heard about a place on Müllerstrasse that does a vegan sushi lunch, details at biosumo.com.
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Re: Vegan and biological food

Maybe I've missed something, but a google search didn't explain anything.

vegan I understand, but what exactly qualifies "biological" food? More concerning, aside from that usual vitamins and minerals what would be non-biological?
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Maybe I've missed something, but a google search didn't explain anything.

vegan I understand, but what exactly qualifies "biological" food? More concerning, aside from that usual vitamins and minerals what would be non-biological?
I think they mean organic. Perhaps the OP could explain why he/she can't use the word "organic"?
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I think they mean organic. Perhaps the OP could explain why he/she can't use the word "organic"?
In many places so-called 'Organic' foods appear under a 'Bio' banner or label. In any event, the two terms are both as inherently meaningless as each other until someone specifies exactly what they are being used to mean.
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In many places so-called 'Organic' foods appear under a 'Bio' banner or label. In any event, the two terms are both as inherently meaningless as each other until someone specifies exactly what they are being used to mean.
They do have strict definitions in some countries. Organic in the U.K. and Bio-Suisse here are clearly defined.
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They do have strict definitions in some countries. Organic in the U.K. and Bio-Suisse here are clearly defined.
Oh sure. Personally I'm not completely familiar with the definitions, and as I do most of my shopping in France that's a third set I'd need to know. Having said that, they (the French) do have a 'Label Rouge' definition as well as organic/bio/whatever, with some different set of rules with which I'm not totally au-fait either. It's usually that one that I look for, particularly for eggs and poultry. They just taste so much better
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Oh sure. Personally I'm not completely familiar with the definitions, and as I do most of my shopping in France that's a third set I'd need to know. Having said that, they (the French) do have a 'Label Rouge' definition as well as organic/bio/whatever, with some different set of rules with which I'm not totally au-fait either. It's usually that one that I look for, particularly for eggs and poultry. They just taste so much better
It's interesting that you say that, even if unwittingly.

It's a point that I'm always disputing with other people: namely that food produced in different ways can have different tastes and some farming methods produce better tasting meat.


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They just taste so much better
It's interesting that you say that, even if unwittingly.
Why would you think it was unwittingly?

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It's a point that I'm always disputing with other people: namely that food produced in different ways can have different tastes and some farming methods produce better tasting meat.
Quite. I have no doubt whatsoever, in the case of eggs and poultry, that free-range birds are better than barn raised, which are better in turn than factory ones.
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That's the birdie. That article seems to imply it's only for poultry, which prompted me to search further. In fact, it isn't, as detailed here (French only) http://agriculture.gouv.fr/le-label-rouge,10506
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Why would you think it was unwittingly?
Obviously not in your case

However, the whole time on this forum, you read about people saying that the fruit and vegetables, or meat etc are cheaper at A than B and so on.

You read less about people saying that they buy at B because they taste better than at A.

We bought some chicken from Lidl. Once. Never again.

I do appreciate that people have different amounts of money to spend on food though but I'd rather have something less often but with a better taste.

To me, taste and animal welfare is more important than whether something is purely organic.
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Re: Vegan and biological food

This is the label for the french "bio" or organic produce

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It's a point that I'm always disputing with other people: namely that food produced in different ways can have different tastes and some farming methods produce better tasting meat.
I think it's undisputed that a lot of bio stuff tastes better than the alternative. Likewise game tastes better than any farmed meat, but within farm meat bio is better than non bio. For certain vegetbles you can observe the same, especially tomatoes, peppers and such, but even potatoes.
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Likewise game tastes better than any farmed meat,
But as so many people have got used to buying bland supermarket chicken, for example, that anything free-range with a slightly gamey flavour is deemed "off" and only fit for the bin.

You do realise this is a vegan thread, don't you?
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You do realise this is a vegan thread, don't you?
Ah, um, okay, point taken.
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I think it's undisputed that a lot of bio stuff tastes better than the alternative. Likewise game tastes better than any farmed meat, but within farm meat bio is better than non bio. For certain vegetbles you can observe the same, especially tomatoes, peppers and such, but even potatoes.
I'm not sure this is true 100% of the time. Don't get me wrong. I buy mostly local & bio.

But some bio veg also get picked unripe, travel very far, etc. Orangey bio tomatoes picked under ripe from Spain taste the same as non-bio orangey under ripe tomatoes from Spain.

The best tasting foods are picked ripe and also are not the over breed to last 4 decades varieties.
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We bought some chicken from Lidl. Once. Never again.
Just curious... but why? I only started buying chicken from Lidl since last year so maybe it's changed but it is the best tasting chicken I've found so far. Their Chicken wings are on sale this week 1KG for 6,33
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Just curious... but why? I only started buying chicken from Lidl since last year so maybe it's changed but it is the best tasting chicken I've found so far. Their Chicken wings are on sale this week 1KG for 6,33
Yes, it's a bit off to impugn a whole store chain on the basis of one sample. As it happens, we'll be eating a Lidl-bought chicken tonight.

Lidl in France, this was, complete with the aforementioned Label Rouge. Eu4.95/kg.
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