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Old 06.04.2007, 22:20
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Best Grand Café in Zurich?

What I miss in Zürich, is a nice grand café like they have lots of in Amsterdam. Hopefully, that's just because I haven't found one since I live here.

A place to have a good coffee (not from a push-the-button-machine, but for example from a proper Cimbali machine), where you can sit and relax on a Saturday on Sunday afternoon. Where they have international newspapers and magazines. Where a variety of people come, with a lively, colourful, informal atmopshere.
I asked in Odeon on Limmatquai, where the response was..."ah..a grand café like they have in Paris you mean??". I do not mean a packed Movenpick at Stadelhofen, nor a Lindt+Sprungli coffeeplace, or a Starbucks which seems to attract backpack tourists and teenagers in great numbers and the coffee really isn't good quality. What I'm frankly hoping to find is a Zürich-equivalent to De Jaren in Amsterdam.

My closest find so far, and recommend people to go, would be the Kafischnaps. Nice atmosphere, mix of people, good coffee machine and nice brunch/lunch menu.

Any better ideas for places like this or better in or around Zürich?
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