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I think I've always had anxiety, looking back i can see examples as far back as aged 5 or 6.... but it has got worse in the last few years. I'm annoyed that I can't just tell myself to "stop being anxious and relax" ... dumb brain
Try fully immersing yourself in something you enjoy doing... it focuses the busy bits of your brain and helps the rest of it to relax a bit and become a little more... still. Or at least it's what helps me, hence my current crusade to blanket the world in crochet... it becomes a little more obsessive but it helps you to feel less crappy. It's not as simple as just telling yourself to stop it. It's not a rational thing, anxiety. That's the frustrating thing. Even as you are in the midst of it all, you still recognise that. You know how you might appear to others but you can't stop it. Which can create more anxiety.

Talking helps. Telling helps. Please don't think you are in any way "wrong". You're just a little out of kilter for now. Go see your doctor. Get a little external assistance.
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Old 02.11.2016, 19:15
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I think I've always had anxiety, looking back i can see examples as far back as aged 5 or 6.... but it has got worse in the last few years. I'm annoyed that I can't just tell myself to "stop being anxious and relax" ... dumb brain

Me too. But it's not dumb. You should read a little about the evolution of anxiety. I'm anxious and will always be, although mine is under good control - but I hate being around large groups of people, for example, and I have horrible test anxiety. Mine waxed and waned between about 4 and 40, then i had a bunch of therapy along with meds, and it got better.

When my anxiety is bad, it's like everything around me is sharp and jagged. When it's not, things are smooth. But anxiety also helps me notice things and search for problem solutions, so it has its benefits.

Anyway, talk to your GP. And get a referral, and good luck! It will take some time.

One of the big problems with anxiety and depression and the rest of it is that people are afraid to talk about it. Stigmatization is still pretty strong, and we're hard on ourselves too. I have a lot of boundaries, but I will talk about health issues with very little prompting. I'm not embarrassed in the least that I've gone though this.
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From an analytical standpoint, (because often it is easier to look at things this way, rather than think you're going nutz), anxiety can be caused by extra adrenaline flying through your system. This is produced by your adrenal glands above your kidneys. These can be "upset" into overproduction for a number of reasons. One is that other hormone producing glands in your system are out of kilter - such as your thyroid.

Modern society expects us to be on the go 24/7. I mean, who turns their phone off at night? Not answering an sms in 20 minutes is considered rude. On the train today I overheard a man tell a woman - "I phoned you 27 times.. why didn't you answer? I thought you were dead." I mean - wtf?! Phone once - I'll get back to you. Unless of course I am dead that is.
Bill paying within 10 days. Sale on for 3 days only. All these things cause anxiety.

You have to learn to shut the world off and go at your own internal pace again. And it doesn't matter if you're upsetting people. Because you will. You have taught them that you are on call at all times. And again, society expects it of you. And we hate to disappoint. Especially those people who are "over empathetic". It's either you staying anxious, or you learning new habits in how to deal with the influences of the world and others.

In the mean time, take the drugs, and give your poor adrenal glands a rest....
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One of the big problems with anxiety and depression and the rest of it is that people are afraid to talk about it. Stigmatization is still pretty strong, and we're hard on ourselves too. I have a lot of boundaries, but I will talk about health issues with very little prompting. I'm not embarrassed in the least that I've gone though this.
I have so much admiration for those who own their mental health issues and speak out about anxiety, depression and so on. One of my major anxieties is social anxiety, I stress so much about what people think about me, so that doesn't help with owning up to it.... to the point I think my Dr will judge me
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I have so much admiration for those who own their mental health issues and speak out about anxiety, depression and so on. One of my major anxieties is social anxiety, I stress so much about what people think about me, so that doesn't help with owning up to it.... to the point I think my Dr will judge me
Talking openly, within reason, is pretty therapeutic. Both for the speaker and the listener.

Most people who haven't dealt with it are scared shitless of the very idea. Most cultures have an intrinsic fear of irrationality. When you talk of it you reveal that you are not some kind of monster to be shunned, but rather quite a similar person which just has a different set of challenges to face.

I used to think of depression as a kind of stronger than normal sadness. If anything, it is quite different from sadness. The one who does the sadness, or happiness, just sort disappeared - isn't there anymore, and the memory of that person isn't quite so clearly sad or happy as we would like the world we remember to have been.
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Old 02.11.2016, 21:54
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I have so much admiration for those who own their mental health issues and speak out about anxiety, depression and so on. One of my major anxieties is social anxiety, I stress so much about what people think about me, so that doesn't help with owning up to it.... to the point I think my Dr will judge me
Well, look at the cartoon I posted way back in this thread. It's just like any health related condition. But social anxiety, I totally get this. I have lots of social anxiety too. For me it's more accepting it and also trying really hard to manage situations. One of the things you find is that you are often your own worse judge. I know I am.

As i get older, I find I have less s to give, too. At the same time, I know I will never be really outgoing. It's ok.
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Old 13.11.2016, 00:23
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Re: Anxiety meds?

I have a referral to a psychologist via GP. Three week wait, which seems forever... ironic when I've been suffering with it for years already
I just want the physiological symptoms to stop, they are pretty much constant at the mo and driving me crazy(er)
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Old 13.11.2016, 18:36
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I have a referral to a psychologist via GP. Three week wait, which seems forever... ironic when I've been suffering with it for years already
I just want the physiological symptoms to stop, they are pretty much constant at the mo and driving me crazy(er)
Good! Hope you feel better soon. Been there, done that....major suckage.
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I have a referral to a psychologist via GP. Three week wait, which seems forever... ironic when I've been suffering with it for years already
I just want the physiological symptoms to stop, they are pretty much constant at the mo and driving me crazy(er)
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Sorry you're feeling off. You're not crazy. At all.

Can your GP not prescribe anything sooner or does it not work that way here? I hope you are resting and being kind to yourself.
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Old 13.11.2016, 21:50
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Sorry you're feeling off. You're not crazy. At all.

Can your GP not prescribe anything sooner or does it not work that way here? I hope you are resting and being kind to yourself.
Your GP can prescribe anti anxiety meds. she might be waiting to hear feom the psych after the first visit, but it's a good point. If you are feeling awful, and you think they might help, it's worth asking.
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Your GP can prescribe anti anxiety meds. she might be waiting to hear feom the psych after the first visit, but it's a good point. If you are feeling awful, and you think they might help, it's worth asking.
Yes. I know I sound like meds are the answer, and I know there are many "answers" but if you are feeling that crappy, then go back. They take around three or so weeks to kick in anyway but knowing you're proactively taking/doing something can be a great relief. Trust me in this.
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Re: Anxiety meds?

Talking definitely helps. In my experience, psycho-therapy helped a lot (during the second phase of my depression). I was also taking some small notes before seeing my doctor. I must also admit that the real help came from my wife (let's say, through a good communication). I still suffer from depression and anxiety but hey, I've learnt what triggers what type of things; talking helps you to create your own map of anxiety. Trust yourself, have a map not to get lost and find something that you're good at.
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Thanks guys.

GP could have prescribed something, but rather would leave it to Psychiatrist. Think I'd rather wait until I'd discussed all my symptoms fully with Psych, in order to try and get right meds from the start (if required). I'm slightly freaked out about the possible side effects though and would possibly rather try and manage without due to that.

On that note, can anyone recommend anything (legal) that helps chill you out I could try for the next few weeks? Herbal teas etc? Ideally something easy to find in coop/pharmacy etc.
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Yes. I know I sound like meds are the answer, and I know there are many "answers" but if you are feeling that crappy, then go back. They take around three or so weeks to kick in anyway but knowing you're proactively taking/doing something can be a great relief. Trust me in this.
Sometimes they are the answer till therapy kicks in, or they help you be receptive to therapy.

Anti anxiety meds are almost instantaneous, anti depressants can take a while. Sedation is an issue with most anti anxiety meds.


Island monkey - you can try breathing exercises.....they really can help - if you have a smart phone - meditation oasis is a good app. Also there's a scottish guy, Andrew Johnson annd he has a lot of relaxation apps. Great voice.
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Breathing exercises is an excellent suggestion.
I remember taking some Solgar products (5HTP was good). It's a dietary supplement but still, I think, you need to ask your doctor about it. Ah... at least for me, Nutella and M&M
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Thanks guys.

GP could have prescribed something, but rather would leave it to Psychiatrist. Think I'd rather wait until I'd discussed all my symptoms fully with Psych, in order to try and get right meds from the start (if required). I'm slightly freaked out about the possible side effects though and would possibly rather try and manage without due to that.

On that note, can anyone recommend anything (legal) that helps chill you out I could try for the next few weeks? Herbal teas etc? Ideally something easy to find in coop/pharmacy etc.
What are your hobbies? Immerse yourself as much as possible in something yout love doing. Watch some films.

I bake. Make soup. Sew. Crochet. Read. Walk the dog. Admittedly these things are less relaxing when also wrangling an independently-minded toddler but... they help.

There are side effects for everything. You'd never take a paracetamol if you read the leaflet...

In the UK you can buy herbal Kalms (spelling?) which might help if you can get similar here.
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Sometimes they are the answer till therapy kicks in, or they help you be receptive to therapy.

Anti anxiety meds are almost instantaneous, anti depressants can take a while. Sedation is an issue with most anti anxiety meds.


Island monkey - you can try breathing exercises.....they really can help - if you have a smart phone - meditation oasis is a good app. Also there's a scottish guy, Andrew Johnson annd he has a lot of relaxation apps. Great voice.
very true
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Anti anxiety meds are almost instantaneous - but very addictive. be cautious if someone opting for it. this is for very short term.

anti depressants - safe but take time to show the effect. easy to come out.

breathing exercises - excellent .. no side effects but require lot of patience.

Source - Google/internet. i dont have any exp with these medications.
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very true
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Anti anxiety meds are almost instantaneous - but very addictive. be cautious if someone opting for it. this is for very short term.

anti depressants - safe but take time to show the effect. easy to come out.

breathing exercises - excellent .. no side effects but require lot of patience.

Source - Google/internet. i dont have any exp with these medications.
Anti depressants (SSRIs) and anxiety meds can sometimes be the same thing. And they do take a while to kick in.
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Very helpful for exams and job interviews. Over the counter (you can also get them from your GP). Personal experience. Just don't pop them on a regular basis.
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How are you feeling, Island Monkey? Better I hope.
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