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Old 23.11.2016, 21:37
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How are you feeling, Island Monkey? Better I hope.
Bit better thanks .. appointment still not until next week, still feeling tense and anxious, but not had any major anxiety attacks this last week
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Old 23.11.2016, 21:41
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Bit better thanks .. appointment still not until next week, still feeling tense and anxious, but not had any major anxiety attacks this last week
Well I'm glad about the latter but sorry about how you're feeling. I hope you're getting rest.
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Very helpful for exams and job interviews. Over the counter (you can also get them from your GP). Personal experience. Just don't pop them on a regular basis.
hmm Herbs .. very first option for people feeling with anxiety before taking chemicals to balance the brain.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...y/faq-20057945
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Old 24.11.2016, 10:15
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hmm Herbs .. very first option for people feeling with anxiety before taking chemicals to balance the brain.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...y/faq-20057945
Uh, herbs are chemicals too.
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Old 29.11.2016, 22:25
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Re: Anxiety meds?

So I have been prescribed Sertraline (Zoloft), and I just wanted to share this because it cracks me up.

Sertraline is used to treat depression and anxiety. On reading up on it, among the many possible side affects of the drug are; Suicidal Thoughts/Actions, Agitation & Anxiety!!!!! Amazing I laughed so much, that maybe just reading the leaflet would cure your depression.
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Old 29.11.2016, 22:37
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So I have been prescribed Sertraline (Zoloft), and I just wanted to share this because it cracks me up.

Sertraline is used to treat depression and anxiety. On reading up on it, among the many possible side affects of the drug are; Suicidal Thoughts/Actions, Agitation & Anxiety!!!!! Amazing I laughed so much, that maybe just reading the leaflet would cure your depression.
i know! Sometimes reading this stuff is even crazier making.

I've been on Z a long time, It's worked well for me. I had to start out at a low dose and worked up to my theraputic dose. I hope it will work for you.
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i know! Sometimes reading this stuff is even crazier making.

I've been on Z a long time, It's worked well for me. I had to start out at a low dose and worked up to my theraputic dose. I hope it will work for you.
Thanks. I'm on a low dose to start too, but I still feeling a little ropey (headache, mild nausea)... hope it doesn't take too long to start working.
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Old 30.11.2016, 01:11
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Thanks. I'm on a low dose to start too, but I still feeling a little ropey (headache, mild nausea)... hope it doesn't take too long to start working.
Hi

I know what you mean about the side effects... they sound nuts. The list in mine is similar.

The headaches will pass but go back to your doc if it's been a while with no improvement. You might feel a bit listless and not immediately better... but you will feel less anxious soon. For me it's around 3 weeks ish. Getting your levels right can take a bit of time.

Here's to good mental health.
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Old 30.11.2016, 01:18
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Thanks. I'm on a low dose to start too, but I still feeling a little ropey (headache, mild nausea)... hope it doesn't take too long to start working.
I had that too at first. My anxiety improved quickly, but I felt a bit nauseated and sleepy on the way up. Did your doctor give you advice for increasing?
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Old 30.11.2016, 10:18
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I had that too at first. My anxiety improved quickly, but I felt a bit nauseated and sleepy on the way up. Did your doctor give you advice for increasing?
25mg for a week, then up to 50mg, then I guess we'll see how it's going, she said 200mg was the norm.
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Old 30.11.2016, 10:52
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The best side effect I saw on my meds was "worm like tongue".....oooookkkkk
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They might have meant serpentine tongue (lingual diskinesia) ?

Hope you feel better.
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Old 30.11.2016, 11:46
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They might have meant serpentine tongue (lingual diskinesia) ?

Hope you feel better.
It's one thing to be a monkey, and yet another to be on an island.... but a worm, or even a snake tongue? That would definitely make me anxious!
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Old 30.11.2016, 12:10
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So I have been prescribed Sertraline (Zoloft), and I just wanted to share this because it cracks me up.

Sertraline is used to treat depression and anxiety. On reading up on it, among the many possible side affects of the drug are; Suicidal Thoughts/Actions, Agitation & Anxiety!!!!! Amazing I laughed so much, that maybe just reading the leaflet would cure your depression.
This is the reason that when I was prescribed it (or similar) I didn't even get the drugs from the chemist, I figured I was better off without it.

I'm not saying you shouldn't take it, just saying it put me off.
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Old 30.11.2016, 12:25
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This is the reason that when I was prescribed it (or similar) I didn't even get the drugs from the chemist, I figured I was better off without it.

I'm not saying you shouldn't take it, just saying it put me off.
The thing with these meds is not everyone who takes them gets side effects, and even fewer get all of the side effects. But if you read the list of side effects before you actually start taking them.... you may well get all of them.

What I did was ignore the side effects, but had a close friend read the list. When I took the medication I kept a diary of what I felt and observed, and had the friend keep a similar diary. Before I started them I discussed how long he expected it would take for the medication to have a beneficial effect, and for that period I just kept taking the meds and writing my diary. Both I and my friend (and the MD) had the option of pulling the plug (subject to whatever exit plan the MD said the meds entailed). After the initial period of medication the friend sent their diary to the MD, and I then discussed my diary with the MD, and I was able to make an evaluation of if things were better, worse, or about the same without wondering if I was reacting to what I had read.

The diary is a bit tedious, but some of these meds make you a bit dopey, and some don't exactly improve your short term memory.

The diary was pretty simple, mine was one line for every day:

Medication taken (amount), hours slept, meals eaten, mood (scale of 1:10), list of physical reactions, comments.

The MD got a decent chart which gave him useful info, and I was sure that I wasn't imagining that I had a tongue like a snake, and I had two people paying attention to what was going on.

(no, I'm not really as OCD as this makes me seem)
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very true
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Anti anxiety meds are almost instantaneous - but very addictive. be cautious if someone opting for it. this is for very short term.

anti depressants - safe but take time to show the effect. easy to come out.

breathing exercises - excellent .. no side effects but require lot of patience.

Source - Google/internet. i dont have any exp with these medications.
You really need to read up more on meds. Check out the book "Anatomy of an Epidemic". by Robert Whitaker.

Not all antidepressants are safe- Many have very serious side affects. Also there are many articles out now telling of people who are getting worse with meds. I am currently working with people to help them get off meds with success. But it needs to take time. With the training am now doing I am having great results.

Also with the training I am doing the person learns. With meds when the meds wear off you are back to where you were when on them.

Anti-anxiety meds can also be dangerous.

Sometimes meds can be instantaneous but on a long term basis not helpful.

People are now looking for ways of living that do not incliûde meds.
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A video from Robert Witaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ql9Cc_p3r8
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But if you read the list of side effects before you actually start taking them.... you may well get all of them.
Yep, the nocebo effect is real.... and fascinating!

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You really need to read up more on meds. Check out the book "Anatomy of an Epidemic". by Robert Whitaker.

Not all antidepressants are safe- Many have very serious side affects. Also there are many articles out now telling of people who are getting worse with meds. I am currently working with people to help them get off meds with success. But it needs to take time. With the training am now doing I am having great results.

Also with the training I am doing the person learns. With meds when the meds wear off you are back to where you were when on them.

Anti-anxiety meds can also be dangerous.

Sometimes meds can be instantaneous but on a long term basis not helpful.

People are now looking for ways of living that do not incliûde meds.
Therapy (I'm told) is very effective, but I think in some cases therapy alone is not enough to control some peoples conditions. I wonder if you think just people with anxiety and depression should not take meds? What about disorders such as bipolar and schizophrenia? Should someone with persistent severe migraines learn to live without medication?

Some drugs have side effects and risks associated, but I think what side effects you may get needs to be weighed up against the benefits in your life.
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Yep, the nocebo effect is real.... and fascinating!



Therapy (I'm told) is very effective, but I think in some cases therapy alone is not enough to control some peoples conditions. I wonder if you think just people with anxiety and depression should not take meds? What about disorders such as bipolar and schizophrenia? Should someone with persistent severe migraines learn to live without medication?

Some drugs have side effects and risks associated, but I think what side effects you may get needs to be weighed up against the benefits in your life.
Although I spurned the drugs I must also say that therapy didn't help me either, and I tried two different therapists plus hypnotherapy spread over a year or more. After 6 years I manage anxiety and depression (just deal with it) but I am also sure that if I had the drugs and kept the therapy up I might well be in a better place. I just didn't want to take the risk.

Some drugs certainly have a role, as does some homeopathy and therapy. You just have to find what works for you. I don't think anybody can say "drugs are bad" and leave it at that.
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In some people, meds help the person be attentive and participate better in therapy.

And yes, meds have side effects. You need to balance out the side effects of no treatment versus the side effects of treatment. It's an individual choice.
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