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Anxiety meds?

Hello all,

I have a new friend who has just moved here and she is having some problems with anxiety. She was on Xanax in the states, however she stopped it a bit before she moved, and now is having attacks again. As I said she has just moved so she can't post yet. In the states you can see your family doctor for this. Is it the same here, or do you have to see a Psychiatrist? Can anyone recommend anyone as well? Thanks!
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Old 02.03.2011, 21:33
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Re: Anxiety meds?

Hi,

Tell your friend to contact her insurance and they will recommend someone according to her location, moving is a big thing most think it should be exciting but it is very nerve wracking, hope your friend feels better soon!
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Re: Anxiety meds?

Hi,

Just to clarify, she probably will need to see a psychiatrist. Family doctors here are VERY reluctant to have anything to do with any sort of 'mental health' issue - my family doctor was reluctant to prescribe me painkillers for migraines 'just in case' it was related to my other issues and insisted I talk to my psychiatrist.

Having said that, I know that with some health insurance providers you have to go to your family doctor to be then sent on to a specialist, so your friend had better check that before she just goes directly to a psychiatrist. She might also find that a family doctor might have someone she could recommend.

If she can go direct to a psychiatrist, have a look here: http://www.doctor.ch/doctor.html.

Hope that helps!
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Hi,

Just to clarify, she probably will need to see a psychiatrist. Family doctors here are VERY reluctant to have anything to do with any sort of 'mental health' issue - my family doctor was reluctant to prescribe me painkillers for migraines 'just in case' it was related to my other issues and insisted I talk to my psychiatrist.
My family doctor was very good with "mental health" issues and quickly referred me to a specialist. I'd like to correct the above statement with "Some family doctors here are..."

I'd say the more difficult issue is finding an English-speaking psychiatrist who is covered by the insurance company.

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Old 08.03.2011, 13:42
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Re: Anxiety meds?

ALl good advice! Thanks so much, will pass this onto her.
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Old 08.03.2011, 13:55
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Re: Anxiety meds?

I would recommend this guy: www.hypnotic.ch He cured all my anxiety problems in 2 x 2hour sessions. Not cheap, but very effective, at least for me.
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I would recommend this guy: www.hypnotic.ch He cured all my anxiety problems in 2 x 2hour sessions. Not cheap, but very effective, at least for me.
But does he need an interpreter or does he speak English? Maybe he could start off by teaching her German while she is under his spell.
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I will sign up too if he can teach me German! haha
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Re: Anxiety meds?

Take plenty of Magnesium and the full range of vitamin B's, especially B12. Kava is also a relaxant and can help ease anxiety, available at the Pharmacy called Piper Methysticum. These are all available over the counter and one doesn't need a prescription. Another relaxant is Bachs Rescue Remedy, Valerian Root (Baldrian in German) and Passion Flower, all herbal, non opiate based medications (that are addictive).
most alchohol will only accentuate the anxiety also.
It says also that XANAX use should not be stopped abrubtly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanax

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Re: Anxiety meds?

I think family docs will refer, it might be a good idea to try directly, first. I have a feeling stopping anxiety meds could be the reason for new attacks, people I know who have been on anxiety meds had to wean off for weeks and weeks, halfing and quartering their doses...it seemed quite sophisticated. Also depends on how long one has been on the drug. if you take some for a long time, you just gota stay on it and there are risks as well.
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But does he need an interpreter or does he speak English? Maybe he could start off by teaching her German while she is under his spell.
He speaks very good English. I'm sure it would work really well, although barking like a dog is a speciality I believe. woof woof
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Re: Anxiety meds?

The advice here sounds very sensible. Whatever you do, don't be tempted to 'self-prescribe' and buy over the internet. It is probably worse than a 50-50 chance that you would get genuine medicines.
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Re: Anxiety meds?

She definitely needs to see someone who will help her with her problem and not just prescribe dangerous and addictive drug which is not suited to long term use (google for info on xanax). A good doctor should have quite a few less harmful remedies and ways of dealing anxiety states.
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The Chemistry of Calm

I've attached an interesting article I came across recently, it's an excerpt from a book written by a psychiatrist named Dr. Henry Emmons it's called "The Chemistry of Calm". It speaks directly to this issue and specifically how to use natural compounds to combat the problems of anxiety. I think it offers an interesting approach to this often overlooked disorder.

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Old 08.03.2011, 19:19
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There are all sorts of strategies one can use to calm anxiety without drugs. However, some people have such a high level of anxiety to start that prescription meds, well regulated help to make you more receptive to these tools - meditation, visualization, breathing, exercise and so on.

If your friend has taken Xanax in the US and has a psychiatrist who can communicate with her docs here, that might be helpful. Xanax is a great drug, if taken carefully. But it is easy to become addicted to and docs here are very cautious, especially family docs, and rightly so.

In fact, for my 6 month course of chemotherapy, I've been given loreazapam which creates less a sense of euphoria, but helps me chill when I am on prednisone.

Anxiety is tough to treat. Been there, done that, and moving can just bring it back. Mine has been well managed for the last 5 years, and even breast cancer hasn't brought it back full blown. It can be worse than depression in some ways. I hope she finds a good therapist. Is she in Zurich? Maybe the uni hospital has a referral service.
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I've attached an interesting article I came across recently, it's an excerpt from a book written by a psychiatrist named Dr. Henry Emmons it's called "The Chemistry of Calm". It speaks directly to this issue and specifically how to use natural compounds to combat the problems of anxiety. I think it offers an interesting approach to this often overlooked disorder.

I hope you friend feels better soon.
The Chemistry of Calm is an excellent read and explains the anxiety disorder completely, very helpful indeed!
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There are all sorts of strategies one can use to calm anxiety without drugs. However, some people have such a high level of anxiety to start that prescription meds, well regulated help to make you more receptive to these tools - meditation, visualization, breathing, exercise and so on.

If your friend has taken Xanax in the US and has a psychiatrist who can communicate with her docs here, that might be helpful. Xanax is a great drug, if taken carefully. But it is easy to become addicted to and docs here are very cautious, especially family docs, and rightly so.

In fact, for my 6 month course of chemotherapy, I've been given loreazapam which creates less a sense of euphoria, but helps me chill when I am on prednisone.

Anxiety is tough to treat. Been there, done that, and moving can just bring it back. Mine has been well managed for the last 5 years, and even breast cancer hasn't brought it back full blown. It can be worse than depression in some ways. I hope she finds a good therapist. Is she in Zurich? Maybe the uni hospital has a referral service.
Thank you Edot, and I hope you are feeling better soon as well!
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Re: Anxiety meds?

Anxiety is one if not the biggest problem people have in the Western world. Anxiety comes in a number of forms but I think that this probably has been stated in the article posted previously. A coomon anxiety is obsessive compulsive whci many people try to fix with alcohol and street drugs.

In my opinion, based upon what I have read, experienced and observed , many of the drugs prescribed for anxiety, such as xanax are addictive. When one goes off them there can be terrible rebounds which can be interpreted as one going back to their sympton which the drugs was prescribed for. Often it is the brain trying to stabilize and may take some time as the drug is withdrawen. If one is going to quit as mentioned previously it should be done slowly depending on the amount of time taken. Once again in my opinion, the drugs can actually make some of the situations worse. Remember most drugs have side effects of some kind.

Most people are taking drugs because it tends to be easiest and quick method but in most cases only deal with the symptoms rather than getting the cause. And in many cases other drugs are prescribed to deal with the side effects of the previous drug.

This is why I got involved with biofeedback and neurofeedback as an alternative to medications. Although it make take longer and involve effort, I find that it is the best solution in the long run.
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Thank you Edot, and I hope you are feeling better soon as well!
Thanks, I'm doing pretty well. And I agree with a lot of the other posters, and use a variety of non-drug strategies, although sometimes the drugs are necessary. People blame themselves needlessly and view this as a sign of weakness, but it's not.

Anxiety is an interesting thing. It makes people more attentive to their surroundings and at lower levels, increases the tendency to search for information. So we want to keep a little, but debilitating levels are unbearable.
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