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Dreaded Head Lice

My apologies if this has already been covered - have just spent ages putting in various searches and reading loads of threads but nothing came up.

Does anyone have the name of a good lotion to get rid of HeadLice and also where do I get it from. Have tried the usual wet comb method which always seemed to work in the UK on the odd occasion when we got them but nothing seems to be working here.

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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Sorry Claire! Having 5 kids in my family while growing up, we went through this twice - each time the youngest two went through kindergarten. Lucky me, I was pre-teen and teen at the time, it was a faaahhhbulous time, lemme tell you.

We were in the US though, used a product called RID and it worked pretty well, I'm unsure if that is available here though. Part of what made it "good" was that it had not only shampoo (and a comb included) to treat hair, there also was spray for cushions and bedding.


Doing a quick search now, I came up with this: Rausch Lice-Stop which should be available here.

If you've tried and don't like that, or if you can't find it, or whatever reason you may have... You can certainly ask at the Apoteke, in my experience they usually have at least one person who can speak English if your German / Swiss-German isn't up to it.
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

I've had them a couple of times in England (occupational hazard for a teacher). The school nurse there told me that finding just one lotion that killed all the lice was practically impossible. She recommended the wet fine-toothed comb with LOTS of conditioner every day. Everyone could always tell when I had head lice - my hair was so shiney and glossy.

Time consuming I'm afraid if you have several kids.
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Mosquito 3-Phasen Läusestopp

in Pharmacies near you. I used it on my kids as a prevention when lice were around at school. Which is what you can do, because its absolutely non-toxic. They also have a washing detergent for 30 - 40 degrees laundry (lice die at 60) and a spray to prevent lice from settling down at all.
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Go to your local pharmacy and get a bottle of Hedrin* lotion - they should tell you how to use it. It's quick, works overnight, a second treatment is required a week later. And use a fine-toothed comb every day (they have special ones at the pharmacy too, get a white one, not a metal one), as said using lots of conditioner during a couple of weeks.

There's no need to stuff toys, furnishings in the freezer, or attic or wash at high temperatures. I usually just change the bedclothes.

As to prevention: I've heard the Rausch shampoo works. But the main thing is to tell your kids to keep their heads apart when rumbling around (not easy, but that's how they travel )

* The link is to the UK site. The product is available over the counter under the same name here.
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Tea trea oil on the comb, and regular use of tea tree oil shampoo.
A nit comb will rid hair of the bodies.

Worked for my two...
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

many thanks - will send hubby out to see if he can locate Rausch products. Have spent every day of Fasnacht break trying to eradicate from 3 daughters and dreading the return to school this week as no doubt the problem will recurr.


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Sorry Claire! Having 5 kids in my family while growing up, we went through this twice - each time the youngest two went through kindergarten. Lucky me, I was pre-teen and teen at the time, it was a faaahhhbulous time, lemme tell you.

We were in the US though, used a product called RID and it worked pretty well, I'm unsure if that is available here though. Part of what made it "good" was that it had not only shampoo (and a comb included) to treat hair, there also was spray for cushions and bedding.


Doing a quick search now, I came up with this: Rausch Lice-Stop which should be available here.

If you've tried and don't like that, or if you can't find it, or whatever reason you may have... You can certainly ask at the Apoteke, in my experience they usually have at least one person who can speak English if your German / Swiss-German isn't up to it.
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Thanks - always used Tea tree oil shampoo in the UK which did seem to prevent the problem occuring but haven't found it here (visitor is bringing a supply in April!) - any suggestions as to where I can buy it in Basel?

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Tea trea oil on the comb, and regular use of tea tree oil shampoo.
A nit comb will rid hair of the bodies.

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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Thanks - have used hedrin in the past but perhaps not looking in the right places here.


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Go to your local pharmacy and get a bottle of Hedrin* lotion - they should tell you how to use it. It's quick, works overnight, a second treatment is required a week later. And use a fine-toothed comb every day (they have special ones at the pharmacy too, get a white one, not a metal one), as said using lots of conditioner during a couple of weeks.

There's no need to stuff toys, furnishings in the freezer, or attic or wash at high temperatures. I usually just change the bedclothes.

As to prevention: I've heard the Rausch shampoo works. But the main thing is to tell your kids to keep their heads apart when rumbling around (not easy, but that's how they travel )

* The link is to the UK site. The product is available over the counter under the same name here.
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

the Rausch product are good especially the one you can use as prevention. make sure you do this as well to avoid the problem to happen again. The only product which worked for us is Paranix ' poux et lentes'. I bought it in France and hopefully you can also get in switzerland.
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Thanks - have used hedrin in the past but perhaps not looking in the right places here.
In your "Apotheke" or "Drogerie".
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

We found a metal Nit comb dipped in a strong solution of Dettol worked very well. You can also watch the buggers dying in the solution, which makes the job go just a bit quicker.

Dettol is also usually available here "under the counter" at Indian grocers, i.e. you have to ask for it.

Dettol is an English antiseptic mxture of 2 chemicals. Fairly safe if you don't drink it! http://www.dettol.ch/de/

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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

The Apotheke should have Hedrin. You need to treat everyone in the family and make sure that teachers, carers etc are informed so other kids in the class can be checked and treated. You can get rid of the nits with wet combing with a proper nit comb and conditioner every other day but's a lot of hard work.

One of my ex colleagues was a Health Visitor in the UK and one of her special interests was nit treatment. In one school nits never seemed to go away. They finally tracked down the reason......Lots of kids visited a little sweet shop on the way home from school and the old dear who ran it like have the little kids sit on the counter and then she'd ask them what they wanted. Well she was a little hard of hearing and the kids spoke quietly so she would put her head to theirs to hear what they were saying. And the shopkeeper had the nits but didn't know. Once she'd been treated and changed the way she served her customers the school had far fewer incidents.

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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

This thread is making me re-think parenthood
Just kidding

I feel for you OP the last time I got lice was 10 years ago while working at a hospital, if you see my hair you will know why it was a nightmare!
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Spent Fasnacht break nitcombing all of us every other day with a proper comb and lashings of conditioner and thought we had it cracked - daughter no 2 then comes home at lunchtime today with a note to say a nit has been spotted and she can't go back to school until they are cleared (apparently a boy in her class has them too)!! Back to square 1 then!!

Husband is now out in Basel searching for Hedrin or Rausch products and the whole family will be in for a treat tonight - no dinner till no nits!

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The Apotheke should have Hedrin. You need to treat everyone in the family and make sure that teachers, carers etc are informed so other kids in the class can be checked and treated. You can get rid of the nits with wet combing with a proper nit comb and conditioner every other day but's a lot of hard work.


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Have tried the usual wet comb method which always seemed to work in the UK on the odd occasion when we got them but nothing seems to be working here.
I thought that clean Switzerland would be nit-free but sadly not. I always use a metal nit comb and copious amounts of the cheapest hair conditioner I can find. And then comb morning and evening until I find no trace of either wriggling live lice or eggs. I am a bit wary of applying chemicals that kill insects on my children.

A doctor friend of mine always said 'In the UK the kids have no lice and the dogs have no worms'. None of the mums ever came clean about lice infestations and the lice lived a lengthy and fruitful life. Your Swiss teacher may seem a bit direct but at least she is trying to stop the problem spreading. I would also tell any other mums of your child's friends about it - this can only be helpful. There's no point in you spending hours getting rid of the lice for your child to be re-infested the next day.

Good luck with that combing.
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I thought that clean Switzerland would be nit-free but sadly not. I always use a metal nit comb and copious amounts of the cheapest hair conditioner I can find. And then comb morning and evening until I find no trace of either wriggling live lice or eggs. I am a bit wary of applying chemicals that kill insects on my children.

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The mosquito shampoo is not chemical which is why you can even use it when you are not sure whether your kids have them or not. It is based on coconut oil.
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

We used Hedrin - our Paediatrician had a sample - I'm sure you can easily get it from the pharmacy ... it seemed to work really well!

I would not recommend using tea tree oil as a 'daily' product. There's no scientific evidence that it works to repel headlice (although I know of at least two products that use a combination of tea tree oil and other oils and have been clinically tested)...

The reason is that tea tree oil is actually quite toxic - and repeated use could quite likely cause an allergic reaction (repeat exposure sensitivity) - I worked on a project testing it for all sorts of cosmetic purposes for 2 years, and in our team of 8 people, two ended up with allergic problems from too much exposure to the oil...
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Re: Dreaded Head Lice

Here are the ingredients for the 'Mosquito' head lice treatment -
Water, sodium laureth sulfate, cocamido propyl betaine, soyabean oil, hydrolysed collagen, glycosphingolipid, geranium.

The 'Rausch' shampoo:
Water, Vinegar, Rapeseen oil, coconut oil, cetearyl alcohol, glycerin, capric/caprylic triglycerides, emulsifier, 4-Terpineol (this could be a tea tree oil extract), Thickener, emulsifier, perfume, Licorice wood, quassia, preservative, linalool, pine oil, sulfur...

And the 'Hedrin' is dimethicone and cyclomenthicone, its very different - it's not a shampoo - it's a liquid/lotion - the dimethicone basically drowns the lice (lice breathe through their skin, and if they are covered in goo they can't breathe, then they die and you can wash them out of your hair)...it's not particularly toxic...
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