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Re: Searching for Medical Advice in the EF: Common sense

Somebody is pagin' about gas problem?

I never used to believe it, but sugar will give your horrific gas, in case your guts get all...what's it...yeasty.

Can we change the topic?

So, Angela, if you have a really hot patient, are you more or less objective.... (sorry if your hb is here, just a theoretical Q)
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So, Angela, if you have a really hot patient, are you more or less objective.... (sorry if your hb is here, just a theoretical Q)
LOL has never happened...
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Re: Searching for Medical Advice in the EF: Common sense

Dang, so it's not like Gray's Anatomy?
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Re: Searching for Medical Advice in the EF: Common sense

I think you can expand this to cover all members of the medical profession. I am only here now because a nurse figured out I was in big trouble medically speaking even though I was not really showing the proper symptoms for what I had, she told me she "just knew". My midwife sister has also saved the life of many mothers & babies because she "just knew", one time she realised a mother to be was about to have a placental abruption while talking to her on the phone about some vaugue symptoms that did not really point to any problem. My sister called for an ambulance immediatley & just as they arrived at A&E it happened, the Ob/Gyn who operated said that if the ambulance had not been called both mother & baby would have died. Of course it takes years of training & experiece to "just know" and follow through on your instincts.

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Dang, so it's not like Gray's Anatomy?
Pffff I wish...
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Old 11.07.2011, 18:44
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What was your point, Nil?
This: .........

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I think one cannot really say, listen to the docs only, online help is the best, your family only, or your friends. Smart creatures will stay savy, synthesizing whatever info they have on hand, filtering, and going by guts.
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Re: Searching for Medical Advice in the EF: Common sense

It really depends on the doctor....
I would so much appreciate if doctors would only listen carefully to what the patient is saying.

Any way the best place to find intelligent info regarding medical issues is:
- Medline
- Mayo clinic
- Cleveland clinic
- Merck's manual on-line
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I would so much appreciate if doctors would only listen carefully to what the patient is saying.

Any way the best place to find intelligent info regarding medical issues is:
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- Mayo clinic
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- Merck's manual on-line
So true...
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It really depends on the doctor....
I would so much appreciate if doctors would only listen carefully to what the patient is saying.

Any way the best place to find intelligent info regarding medical issues is:
- Medline
- Mayo clinic
- Cleveland clinic
- Merck's manual on-line
And the NHS
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I would so much appreciate if doctors would only listen carefully to what the patient is saying.
One needs humility for that.

And be experienced enough to dare to stay away from preconceptions.

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Re: Searching for Medical Advice in the EF: Common sense

11 pages!!!

From personal experience, I had a really awful pain in my right wrist sometime back. As a person who will only go to a doctor when I am dragged, I kept putting it off hoping it will go away and seeked help from the internet. All symptoms pointed me to carpel tunnel syndrome which sent me to the highest level of panic.

However a visit to the doctor confirmed that it wasnt - more of a hairline fracture on my ring finger in an incident caused by my own carelessness by slamming my fingers in the fridge door that I forgot about - and the pain carried over to my wrist and palms due to the strain that I've put onto the injured finger

The internet and advice from strangers well meaning or not, may be accurate - it may be not. For doctors, you run into the risk of crap doctors too. Best way forward is to find a physician who is consultative enough to listen to your possible suggestions to other symptoms and concerns. I've met some doctors whose heads are so far up their arses that they have myopic view of what they think it is, or are more interested in billing the insurance company for unnecessary tests for what can be a simple diagnosis - whilst the patient can recover in two weeks but dragged out to two months.

Trust your gut and seek second opinions - be it the internet or another doctor if need be. You alone are responsible for your own health, and let common sense be the guide!
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It really depends on the doctor....
I would so much appreciate if doctors would only listen carefully to what the patient is saying.

Any way the best place to find intelligent info regarding medical issues is:
- Medline
- Mayo clinic
- Cleveland clinic
- Merck's manual on-line
And the patient. Sometimes patients don't tell the doctor everything, and this is why it's good to have someone with you, especially for complex problems, if you're anxious or forgetful. Patients need to remember that the doctor works for you, but at the same time the doctor relies on what you tell her.

But to do this, docs need to schedule enough time with with each patient. Here they seem to. If my appointment with my oncologist is at 9am, i have blood work done, then i see the doc around 9:30 and start chemo at 10. My husband goes with me and the doc asks a series of questions that are thorough.

My family in Pittsburgh see a cardiologist who takes as much time as he needs, and so his schedule always runs late by an hour or so. Patients who don't like this switch doctors. He's a great doc tho, and when my dad was in the hospital In 2006-2007, it wasn't unusual to see the doc visitng him at 9 pm or later.
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Re: Searching for Medical Advice in the EF: Common sense

Edot, I think it really depends on the problem, I had a patient referring about anal pain and the sensation of a tumor in the same part of the body, this was a long time ago and when I gave him the physical...I found a small (sorry cant describe in English) risen wound... I have no idea why I asked (I tell you it was a sense of knowing) and asked him about his sexual life, he had been having homosexual encounters (outside his marriage)...so in this case he was honest and we found the problem together...
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Re: Searching for Medical Advice in the EF: Common sense

If doctors could write a book !!
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There is this one
Sorry couldn't resist

PS: do like his straight talking though
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O. Sacks is fab, other books as well
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Showing my age again, I loved The Citadel (Cronin).
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