Newly relocated to Switzerland and I'm looking for a pediatrician that is health oriented and not just another sales rep for the pharma industry. I'm looking for somebody that understands the risks of vaccinations and respects my decision as a parent not to (over-) vaccinate my child. The pediatrician doesn't have to speak English but it would be a plus.

I'm currently living in the Basel area. Thank you for your recommendations.

Morning - sorry, can't help in the Basel area, but what's the specific question if you already know that you don't want to vaccinate? I also don't believe in vaccinations or any type of inoculations, but I know that I am in a small minority here.

Prepare to be lectured of what a terrible parent you are. I for one respect your decision and welcome your independent caring for your child.

OK - I'll bite and try not to say what a bad parent you are ().

I think you'll struggle to find a paediatrician who will not vaccinate. It is fairly standard here and with the rise in various illnesses due to similar positions of "risks of vaccination" without taking into account the "benefits of vaccinations" (this is a risk:benefit estimation), most Drs will vaccinate.

There may be herbal/traditional medicine practices that are around, but you'd probably be best going to an apotheke and asking them. It'll also be cheaper than going to a pharma sales rep.

Now, if you want a homeopath who'll do nothing for you... I think there's a few threads about that here already, so will refrain from commenting further.

Try an anthroposophical doctor. The headquarters of the anthroposophical movement are in Dornach/Arlesheim (Baselland) and there should be enough anthroposophical doctors around the Basel area.

If I remember correctly there used to be an anthroposophical children's doctor in Arlesheim, (can't remember the name though) - although this was 18 years ago or more. Wish you luck.

Your choice, but please remember to keep your child away from expectant mothers as lots of the 'harmless' childhood illnesses can harm or kill an unborn child.

(That's from someone who understands the risks of not-vaccinating)

Thanks but no thanks for telling me what a bad parent I am. I have a Science background and believe in Science. I do not believe that vaccinations are the reason many diseases were eradicated as there are many variables that contributed to that - personal hygiene and sewer system. Further, mass vaccination is often the root of further outbreaks of the disease as was the case with Polio in the UK and other countries, yet people conveniently ignores those facts.
In my opinion it is irresponsible to inject a baby/human/animal with mercury and other poisonous compounds. There's also evidence that disease outbreak was the result of growing vaccines/disease on monkey and other animal tissue. Vaccinations also have history of having caused more death and side effects than the disease in itself…go figure but pharma profited from the nearly mandatory vaccinations that the government pushes onto people…

In summary, I don't care if people call me a bad parent...I'm not the one with autistic kids or those with Frankenstein foreheads or other mental retardation which has been rising significantly since the introduction of the massive vaccination schedules. As stated I have a science background yet do not trust the pharma industry that is in charge of writing the medical curriculum which benefits their bottom line. Pharma is not in business for health but profits from disease and I'd make case, supported by science, that we as a society are worse off from a health perspective than many decades ago...Doctors also don't question artificial sweeteners, etc....Many MDs know what is written in the Merck Manual and that is about it, hence my comment about them being a pharma sales rep [/end of rant]

Seriously?

What kind of "Science" are you into? The kind from the Dark Ages? That seems to be the last time you read a science journal. Anyway, have fun with that. Just please stay away from everyone else.

And bang goes any credibility you might have had.

What kind of "science" background do you actually have?

Now I can't take you seriously.

The man who started all that has research that has shown to be fraudulent.

The papers have been retracted.

But... but... but I never said you were a bad parent!

Neither am I. What's your point? If it is to try and show how "scientifically hot & knowledgeable" you are, then I'm sorry to say, but it came across as a tad (take that as a British understatement) unhinged.

Anyway, I'll leave - don't want to be too off topic. Sound's like Enaj's suggestion would suit the bill.

If I were an expecting mother I'd be more concerned with all the artificial sweeteners and other additives that take over the food industry. I'd also be more concerned with the many foreign agents that most people allow doctors to inject into their child. The fact that people inject their kids with "non-active" disease grown on animal tissue yet are concerned about my kid that is not vaccinated is ludacris. It's beyond idiotic to inject your 1 day old with Hep-B vaccine.

Personally I had a major medical condition following vaccinations at age 20...I will never subject myself to other vaccinations and wish I would have been educated on the subject at an earlier age instead of just blindly trusting the medical society...I was very ignorant...FYI...my 18 month old didn't have a single vaccine and he is the most healthy child...I know parents that laughed at my beliefs until their child developed autism immediately following vaccinations, the behavioral changes in that child were within days of the vaccine and obvious. I know others that had their kids vaccinated according to the suggested vaccination schedule...their children are always sick and visit the doctors on a frequent basis. My child eats home cooked, non-microwaved, food prepared from fresh vegetables and fruits. I take a healthy diet over vaccinations any day.

I respect your decision to inject foreign substances into your child on a pre-emptive basis despite the data that is available. Next they'll vaccinate against obesity...best of luck.

And you think the alternative health industry is any different? Most practitioners represent single companies, mark ups are huge, even larger than pharma, as they have no legal obligations to fill on quality, they don't need to worry if their remedies will kill anyone because they are either water or sugar, and they don't need to demonstrate the effectiveness of a remedy, so anything can be brought to market straight away, do they worry if it works or not? Obviously not, as repeated experiments show that most of their remedies can be replicated by any old chump with a sugar pill and a good word.

Not only that, they can capitalise on repeat business, as they give themselves credit for your own natural healing process. Litlle training, if any training is required to set yourself up in business, and even if you went to the finest school of quackery for many years, at the end of the day, you can get any guy off the street, tell them to give a pill to someone with a word of encouragement, and they'll get the same results as your trained quack.

And you think pharma is a scam.

Yes, well, your independently verified by mulitple studies anecdotes sure are 'scientific'. Oh...wait...you said 'beliefs'. Excuse me. I thought you said you were 'scientific'. Again, feel free to not vaccinate your child. Just make sure you don't send them to school or take them to the playground where they can possibly cause outbreaks amongst the other kids.

Try the awesome book "Bad Science" from Ben Goldacre. It doesn't defend Big Pharma (on the contrary), but it explains very nicely where all the hmmm... "misconceptions" that you mention above stem from.

in for lulz

Yet my 2 kids have received the full, recommended vaccination schedule and are also healthy and rarely visit the doctor, neither are they autistic.

By using your reasoning, I therefore conclude that vaccinations are the sole reason for this.

Which is total rubbish, of course.

PS Not all vaccines contain Mercury

OK - I'll bite. Not to say what a terrible parent you are but to say that this kind of polarising introduction statement doesn't help you. You didn't "simply ask a question" (as you state below)

I don't think that my belief in pharmaceutical medicine makes me a lackey for the industry....I think it makes me a rational modern thinker who knows enough about chemistry and observational science to homeopathy is at best passive and at worst dangerous.

However, I can keep my views to myself if you can do likewise and just ask "Are there any homeopathic paediatricians in Basel?"

With that pararaph you illustrate your ignorance on the subject and your pharma influenced thinking.

Here, just one article but there is plenty of information available.

http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

Look, I'm not here to waste my time debating this topic. I simply asked a question, so label me a bad parent and make fun of my beliefs and knowledge about vaccination history and the pharma industry. Make fun of my beliefs all you want, hope you enjoy it!

I wouldn't have stood in line for the swine flu vaccine in the 70s that was brought to us by fear mongering and government suggestion...the vaccine caused more deaths than the disease and it is also often ignored that the first person to die from that swine flu suffered from physical exhaustion while sick...

CBS 60mins Reports 1976 Deadly Swine Flu Fraud part 1


part 2


I'm done debating this topic. I respect others beliefs to inject their children with human designed disease, grown on animal tissue and preserved with mercury. Just don't force me to poison my children that way to protect the profit of the pharma industry. Best of luck.

Vaccines also cause automobile deaths.

http://www.vaccinetimes.com/vaccines...ith-excel-too/