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I'm old and falling apart...

Hey all,

About a month ago, I noticed a pain in my right knee. It isn't constant, but when I put any weight on it and go from bent to straight or straight to bent (stairs for example) I get a kind of a dull pain that seems to be coming from the area right at the upper edge of my knee cap.

At first it was just on the stairs or when standing up from a low chair, but I got on my bike a couple of days ago (first time since this started) and got the same dull pain with every downward pedal stroke of my right leg.

I don't notice it at all when I'm just walking, but it's clearly not getting any better by itself.

(p.s. I'm 46 years old)

Any expert medical opinions out there?
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Old 15.01.2013, 12:13
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Hey all,

About a month ago, I noticed a pain in my right knee. It isn't constant, but when I put any weight on it and go from bent to straight or straight to bent (stairs for example) I get a kind of a dull pain that seems to be coming from the area right at the upper edge of my knee cap.

At first it was just on the stairs or when standing up from a low chair, but I got on my bike a couple of days ago (first time since this started) and got the same dull pain with every downward pedal stroke of my right leg.

I don't notice it at all when I'm just walking, but it's clearly not getting any better by itself.

(p.s. I'm 46 years old)

Any expert medical opinions out there?
I have the same thing happening to me, it just comes and goes sporadically. I think that it might have to do with the cold.
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

If it helps, you are not the only one. I also keep delaying the visit to the doctor,
which is not very clever...
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Old 15.01.2013, 12:19
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About a month ago, I noticed a pain in my right knee. It isn't constant, but when I put any weight on it and go from bent to straight or straight to bent (stairs for example) I get a kind of a dull pain that seems to be coming from the area right at the upper edge of my knee cap.

Any expert medical opinions out there?
Not I, but I have a little experience of knee problems. Yours sounds like at some point you've damaged the meniscus (cartilage). This may have gone unnoticed at the time, and might give no or very mild symptoms for many years. Worthwhile getting it fixed though - normally an arthroscopy, i.e. keyhole surgery, would be used, and if it's only a minor tear you'd be walking within an hour and back to full activity in just a week or two.

If it's damaged, as I suggest, then it's not age-related. Of course, it could just be mild osteoarthritis or some other rheumatoid illness, which tend to be more associated with aging, so I'g get it checked out IIWY.

(Having said which, I'm aware of a mild meniscus tear in my own left knee and haven't got round to getting it sorted. Been that way for two or three years at least).

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I have the same thing happening to me, it just comes and goes sporadically. I think that it might have to do with the cold.
Cold, and more frequently together with damp, weather often increase the effect of mild inflammations in the knee. Not quite sue why, but it's a fact.
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Old 15.01.2013, 12:24
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

I'm sorry I can't help with medical advice but I hope you get well soon.
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Old 15.01.2013, 12:45
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

I've had knee and meniscus problems, primarily due to martial arts, and, of course, doing stupid things. A professional football friend told me to avoid the knife at all costs cause after you start it never stops.

What has done it for me, knees and all joints, is taking Gruenlippenmuschel (Green lip mussel from NZ) capsules every day for a long time now. You can probably get them at any good Reformhaus/Drogerie.
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Old 15.01.2013, 12:54
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I've had knee and meniscus problems, primarily due to martial arts, and, of course, doing stupid things. A professional football friend told me to avoid the knife at all costs cause after you start it never stops.

What has done it for me, knees and all joints, is taking Gruenlippenmuschel (Green lip mussel from NZ) capsules every day for a long time now. You can probably get them at any good Reformhaus/Drogerie.
Would it not be tastier to get green lipped mussels from your friendly neighborhood Asia shop, and either do a green lipped mussel chowder or under cheese in the grill?
Totally agree with your opinion to avoid the knife though.
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Old 15.01.2013, 13:12
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

If you don't want to go to the doc, I have two suggestions -

1) if you know you're going to be walking a lot of stairs or doing biking, consider taking an anti-inflammatory that morning (ibuprofen, for example). Keeping the inflammation down from the start helps tremendously.

2) perform knee exercises regularly to help strengthen the muscles around the knee. Sample exercises here. Same advice applies for ankles, wrists, shoulders, and core muscles, btw.

Feel better soon.
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Old 15.01.2013, 13:17
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

It could be water on the knee.



I advise a tap on the shin.
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Old 15.01.2013, 13:17
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

Sounds like a good idea Slammer, but 1) you would probably have to eat a helluva lot to equal one extract capsule, and 2) dunno if cooking would affect their effectiveness. Whatever it is, my experience is that the extract helps with joint lubrication and cartilage repair.

The other joint bugaboo is the nightshade family, tomatoes, potatoes, green pepper, aubergine, etc....
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Old 15.01.2013, 13:23
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

You're not alone. My left knee is mostly fine, but every now and then I get an momentary painful twinge. My right ankle has a similar habit. I'm hoping they don't synchronise...

Everyone reaches eventually the point where if you wake up in the morning and nothing hurts, you've died in the night.
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Old 15.01.2013, 13:29
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What has done it for me, knees and all joints, is taking Gruenlippenmuschel (Green lip mussel from NZ) capsules every day for a long time now. You can probably get them at any good Reformhaus/Drogerie.
No idea for humans, but this did wonders for my dog's injured knee cartilage!
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

...and neural therapy can do wonders too, if you don't mind needles.
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Old 15.01.2013, 14:04
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2) perform knee exercises regularly to help strengthen the muscles around the knee. Sample exercises here. Same advice applies for ankles, wrists, shoulders, and core muscles, btw.
I had a similar knee problem in my younger days - but after a few months it went from a dull ache to a sharp pain - mainly when I cycled.

The specialist at the hospital told me to lay off the cycling and never to go running.

Anyway, they also gave me a few physio sessions which were basically the exercises in the link above. These strengthen the muscles around the knee and the ham string stretches seemed to pull everything back into place.

After a few months the pain went away and it has never come back and I run more than ever.
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

I have never had the pleasure of meeting you so I am not aware of your physical appearance but a common cause of knee problems can be caused by being a teeny bit overweight.
My sisiter suffered from similar problems and just losing a few pounds made a huge difference.
If you are a normal weight good old cod liver oil tablets are beneficial for the old joints
( 46 is NOT old!!!)
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I have never had the pleasure of meeting you so I am not aware of your physical appearance but a common cause of knee problems can be caused by being a teeny bit overweight.
My sisiter suffered from similar problems and just losing a few pounds made a huge difference.
If you are a normal weight good old cod liver oil tablets are beneficial for the old joints
( 46 is NOT old!!!)
I'm 5'10'' and 165 lbs (okay, a little on the flabby side )
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I'm 5'10'' and 165 lbs (okay, a little on the flabby side )
I'm 5'11 and 207 lbs.
It has be the cold...
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

Is your post about euthanasia related to this thread ?
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No, thank goodness! just bored on a snowy afternoon
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Re: I'm old and falling apart...

Why don't you go to the doctor, it IS covered by the general insurance. It might be the beginning of arthritis.

If you undress and place both hands on both knees, is there a difference in temperatures? If yes, you are ill.
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