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Nursery Fees

Hi there. I'm new, we are currently looking at moving to central Switzerland. I have a couple of questions about nursery fees please.

We have a baby boy who will be 1 this summer and a little girl who will be 3 in the summer. If we move to Switzerland both my husband and I will be working and the kids will be in full time nursery.

The quotes I've had so far for the 2 of them are around 5000 CHF! (I'm astounded at how expensive it is!!).

Is it typical for there to be any reduction for 2 siblings? It's obviously something we will push for once we're on our final selection, but I'm wondering if that is usual in Switzerland (it is in the UK, but not in Munich from my experience).

Is there child allowance for B permit holders living in Switzerland? Or typically support towards nursery fees from private companies? Anything we may find will net against the fees?

Any general tips and pointers on using a nursery in Switzerland would also be appreciated.

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Old 23.06.2013, 13:01
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Re: Nursery Fees

Unfortunately, that sounds just about right (though the upper end of the scale). If you're a dual income family, I'm going to assume you're way above the threshold to qualify for subsidized care. You will - well one parent - will qualify for "Kinderzulage" which is a bit of money paid to your salary by the government. It's usually around 200 CHF depending on which canton you live in. So sadly not more than a drop in the bucket as far as childcare costs are concerned.
It may be more economical to think about a nanny...
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Old 23.06.2013, 13:08
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Re: Nursery Fees

My husband's company pays about 50% of our son's childcare fees. But he's in daycare only two days per week. So you should definitely check to see if your or your husband's employer will contribute. (My husband works for a large insurance company.)

But yes, daycare is very expensive here in CH. I've been told numerous times that the cost of full-time daycare can be the equivalent of a salary here! So it seems that a lot of mothers here opt to put their careers on hold in order to take care of their children themselves, since that may make the most sense, economically.

Also, I think it can sometimes be quite difficult to find a daycare here that has openings, because they do fill up fast. So I definitely suggest to begin looking as soon as possible. Thankfully, though, I believe a law was recently passed that is requiring more daycares to be built. But even those might fill up quickly.
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Thankfully, though, I believe a law was recently passed that is requiring more daycares to be built. But even those might fill up quickly.
I thought this proposal was defeated?

Most nurseries I looked at (local/gemeinde and private) did not offer second child discount, I've only seen it at one private bilingual place. In Zurich and surrounding areas chf 100-130 per child per day seems to be the typical range, with the variation depending on location, whats included (eg whether you have to bring your own nappies), how many weeks per year they are closed, and how old the child is (normally chf 10-20 more per day when they are under 12-18 months). In some areas of the city there is quite good availability, so it helps when you need to find a place for 2 children quickly if you are flexible on location...

Tbh I have found that childcare here is not much more expensive than my friends are paying in London, especially when you take into account higher both gross and net salaries here.
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Old 23.06.2013, 13:36
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I thought this proposal was defeated?
Oh, you may be right. I guess I thought it had been passed because suddenly there are more Krippes being built in our area. Quite a shame if it was defeated, though.
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Old 23.06.2013, 13:48
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Is it typical for there to be any reduction for 2 siblings? It's obviously something we will push for once we're on our final selection, but I'm wondering if that is usual in Switzerland (it is in the UK, but not in Munich from my experience).
I don't know whether it is typical but the one we use offers a reduction for a second child.
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Old 23.06.2013, 17:55
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Re: Nursery Fees

Yes, the going rate for full time childcare at a facility, without subsidy, will be about 2500 per month for one child. Most every daycare I know around here, however, there is a reduction for the second child. The amount of the reduction will vary, public or private, etc... Generally expect a 20 to 40% reduction for the second child. You may see if you and your husband can stagger hours, or one work 80% which is very common, then if you can reduce the childcare hours to say 4 days per week
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Re: Nursery Fees

Here in my area (Neuchatel Jura) it is 105CHF per day (cheaper than London prices - depends where you used to live) but parent/s only pay a third, as a third is paid by employers' fund and a third by the municipality- so about 35CHF per day. In some other areas, parent/s pay according to their income.
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Re: Nursery Fees

Ours (in Zuerich) offered 15% off for both children when the second one joined but it is not typical.

Expect 10% off for second child if lucky.

Sadly it is the price to pay here and indeed, it is basically one salary gone

In my case I still preferred working as I saw it as a long term investement and the nursery yrs are only a few.

For example: when is your daughter born? She may qualify for kindergarten as of August 2014 and that would reduce fees.

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Re: Nursery Fees

Even if you are dual income, you may get some help depending on where you're living. (We do!) If you're living in Zurich city, the formula is here:

http://www.kihz.ethz.ch/docs/elternbeitragsreglement_EN

This requires that you live in the city of Zürich (not canton) and that your daycare (Krippe) receives funds from the city (aka is a public daycare).
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Re: Nursery Fees

We are now going to have 2 kids in daycare and it is definitely costly. But I think it's important so they can learn a couple more languages and integrate into school better. Like others have said employers may contribute some but mine doesn't (besides the 200chf for the first and a little less for subsequent kids) but ETH gives a little extra for kids but not much. We chose a private one vs public because the ratio of kids to teachers seemed to be better in the ones we had spots for. Ours gives a 10% second kid discount. I'm choosing to work 80% instead of 100% and only put them in 4 days a week next year but it doesn't really save any money in the end. It's just for my sanity since my husband is also 100%. Sometimes the krippes will negotiate a price a little with you after you've been there 6 months or so. This doesn't always happen though and they have to like your kid(s) to do it.

Good luck and you'll get used to all the high prices!
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Re: Nursery Fees

Sorry to add to an old thread, but I couldn't find anything quite relevant in a search of the forum.
Does anyone know if (in Basel) there's any help towards nursery fees and what the circumstances might be for it to be considered, if so?
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Re: Nursery Fees

There are three diffrent models of nursery in Basel-Stadt


Private daycares
Part-financed daycares (for example Kidszone)
Subsidized daycares (for example Familea)


To be entitled to receive financial support of the educational department of Basel-Stadt you have to live in canton Basel City and both parents are working or studying.

For more information please contact Mrs Weber or Mrs Rueckli from the Education department:


Information by phone

Monday to Friday from 08.30 till 12.30
Tel. 061 267 46 14


Personal consultation without prior reservation

Freie Strasse 35, Basel
Monday to Friday from 09.00 till 12.00


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