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Re: Are your kids third culture kids?

Both of mine have flown the coop, one to Svizzera Interna (kt. Bern, near Grenchen), the other to the burbs of LA (Manhattan Beach).

Needless to say, a bit of culture shock on arriving at their new locales.

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Old 26.03.2014, 21:44
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Both of mine have flown the coop, one to Svizzera Interna (kt. Bern, near Grenchen), the other to the burbs of LA (Manhattan Beach).

Needless to say, a bit of culture shock on arriving at their new locales.

Tom
I hope you sent them with a copy of your music file
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Old 26.03.2014, 21:52
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Both of mine have flown the coop, one to Svizzera Interna (kt. Bern, near Grenchen), the other to the burbs of LA (Manhattan Beach).

Needless to say, a bit of culture shock on arriving at their new locales.

Tom
I'm not surprised if she's living near Grenchen.
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Re: Are your kids third culture kids?

I'm confused, it seems TCK are mostly those who moved around a lot during their youth and did not live in their parents' passport countries. What about the kids who did NOT move around (born and raised in one place) BUT it wasn't their parents' countries? Are they still TCK?

Not sure I'm clear so let's do an example:

Mom is from Canada, Dad is from Singapore. Child born and raised in Finland. Is that a TCK?

And are the children of TCK called Fourth Culture Kids then?
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Old 26.03.2014, 22:07
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Re: Are your kids third culture kids?

I think that I will probably struggle with number 4. That is how I feel about my parents when I was young. Now that I am older and wiser I see the unintentional hurt I put my parents through.
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Old 26.03.2014, 22:41
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I'm confused, it seems TCK are mostly those who moved around a lot during their youth and did not live in their parents' passport countries. What about the kids who did NOT move around (born and raised in one place) BUT it wasn't their parents' countries? Are they still TCK?

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There seems to be some doubt (some genuine) raised within this thread as to whether there is such a creature as a TCK or if such a classification is useful, but for the purposes of the discussion here and your background I would make that a "Yes" How does it feel after all those years, Pernilleskokken, TCK :-))
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Old 27.03.2014, 09:20
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I hope you sent them with a copy of your music file
Yes, all 693 GB of it!

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Old 27.03.2014, 09:22
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I'm not surprised if she's living near Grenchen.
15 minutes away, in an old mill-house, complete with water-wheel, with cows for neighbors.

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Old 27.03.2014, 15:00
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My thinking was what pretentious nonsense and incredibly patronising to boot.
I guess that shows our level of education

You think "Pretentious nonense..." and I think "What the hell..."
Out of interest, the school I went to was a typical kent comprehensive in the late '70s early '80s. Were you in the grammer school down the road per chance?

But whatever the language the end result is the same. The artical is nonsense.
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Old 27.03.2014, 15:22
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Re: Are your kids third culture kids?

There is no such thing as grammar schools where I come from, local high school in small uninspiring mining town for me also in the 80's

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I guess that shows our level of education

You think "Pretentious nonense..." and I think "What the hell..."
Out of interest, the school I went to was a typical kent comprehensive in the late '70s early '80s. Were you in the grammer school down the road per chance?

But whatever the language the end result is the same. The artical is nonsense.
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Old 27.03.2014, 16:41
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There seems to be some doubt (some genuine) raised within this thread as to whether there is such a creature as a TCK or if such a classification is useful, but for the purposes of the discussion here and your background I would make that a "Yes" How does it feel after all those years, Pernilleskokken, TCK :-))
Honestly... it doesn't feel so good. Sure I speak many languages and have tried living in a few countries. But I feel like I have no home country, and that worries me for my own children.
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Old 27.03.2014, 16:47
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Honestly... it doesn't feel so good. Sure I speak many languages and have tried living in a few countries. But I feel like I have no home country, and that worries me for my own children.
It could also be a benefit, not being tied to a particular flag or nationalism might be freeing. Not having a "home" is a funny feeling but I have accepted it - most of the time.
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Old 27.03.2014, 17:40
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It could also be a benefit, not being tied to a particular flag or nationalism might be freeing. Not having a "home" is a funny feeling but I have accepted it - most of the time.
What bothers me (well, I don't harp on it but wonder from time to time) is how my family on the other side of the deep sea don't seem to accept it. I think this might be a bit of a US thing, its all exciting when family member moves abroad, but after visiting once they've "seen it, done it, have the t-shirt" and the burden is on the one who left to visit in opposite direction.
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Honestly... it doesn't feel so good. Sure I speak many languages and have tried living in a few countries. But I feel like I have no home country, and that worries me for my own children.

Can't imagine this- although OH is in the same position- they moved again and again when he was a child- he doesn't have any links with anyone he went to school with- apart from Uni. And when he first visited my family here, this is what really struck him- seeing and feeling the very deep roots. After living all my adult life in the UK, I am now 'back home'- I walk or drive past a house, and this is were I was born, another and where I lived till 10, another and where I lived until I went to UK- and where parents continued to live for another 20 years- and then where my grandmother was born, and my aunt Berhte- and so on- same for trees, lanes, walking paths - and still see friends I've known since I was born. Some of the best also lived abroad all their adult life, and in much more exotic locations than me- but somehow so many of us chose to come back to our roots. Weird. In many ways, I think OH always decided that one day he would come and live here and share my roots- much more than me I think. As said, bizarre.

I was so lucky Tasebo that my parents really loved the UK, and came twice a year, and always for Christmas as we could never go away due to OH's job.

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In many ways, I think OH always decided that one day he would come and live here and share my roots- much more than me I think. As said, bizarre.
I thought that was called love?

On the subject: I don't understand why they're called third culture..Why not fourth, fifth?
Or does it have to do with the fact that kids have parents of different nationalities and live in a country they are equally foreign...

What's wrong with immigrants or expats?
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I don't get the difference between an expat and an immigrant, so imagine differentiating third culture and segondo. I'm fine with being an idiot to the superior minds that invent such concepts.
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I don't get the difference between an expat and an immigrant, so imagine differentiating third culture and segondo. I'm fine with being an idiot to the superior minds that invent such concepts.
It wasn't enough for us Anglos to export our milky tea, railways and cricket. We're offering you a painful awareness of class, too.

Before you know it you'll be sneering at people who say "toilet" and "serviette" and "sweet".

It's all in your best interests, you know.
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Where would CH be without another fine Brit idea - ski lifts
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Can't imagine this- although OH is in the same position- they moved again and again when he was a child- he doesn't have any links with anyone he went to school with- apart from Uni. And when he first visited my family here, this is what really struck him- seeing and feeling the very deep roots. After living all my adult life in the UK, I am now 'back home'- I walk or drive past a house, and this is were I was born, another and where I lived till 10, another and where I lived until I went to UK- and where parents continued to live for another 20 years- and then where my grandmother was born, and my aunt Berhte- and so on- same for trees, lanes, walking paths - and still see friends I've known since I was born. Some of the best also lived abroad all their adult life, and in much more exotic locations than me- but somehow so many of us chose to come back to our roots. Weird. In many ways, I think OH always decided that one day he would come and live here and share my roots- much more than me I think. As said, bizarre.

I was so lucky Tasebo that my parents really loved the UK, and came twice a year, and always for Christmas as we could never go away due to OH's job.
But you're Swiss, see (or half swiss, from your profile). You came back to your passport country, where you were also born.
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You are talking about a family who has emigrated for good to one place. They are called immigrants.
My understanding of third culture is more when you are moving from country to country, never settling in a unique place with the locals.
Ah, you mean nomads?
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