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Old 21.08.2014, 19:57
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Yes, I know, I`m guilty of bringing this again to the top of the pile ....... but it so reminded me of myself when I was a newbie here - I inadvertently resurrected a FOUR year old thread about smoking - and got lam-bammed to hell and high water for it!

So bad that was I stayed away for a year before I had the courage to venture back in here again.
What on earth would you need courage for? Everyone hides behind a screen.....
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Old 21.08.2014, 20:00
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I would bet, Smoky, that you chose to resurrect that thread because you actually had an opinion or discussion point related to smoking.

It would appear that mother hen simply has an axe to grind about "forum bullying" and a few insults to hurl around rather than having anything to contribute to a discussion about diet pills.
Hey TEXTOCH, there sure as hell ain't no grinding here! I do think that so much bullying goes and like I said I'm quite surprised it is allowed. I bet it would be a total different scenario if people were face to face

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Old 22.08.2014, 20:01
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What on earth would you need courage for? Everyone hides behind a screen.....
Well, when one is as stupid as I was about forums, I couldn`t seem to negotiate my way around the various threads, and members had fun poking their sticks at me.

Being a sensitive old soul, and not into "British" humour - I couldn`t understand their bantering, so took up gardening instead to soothe my soul.

I take it you are an Afrikaaner from South Africa? (your "Totsiens mense")in your last post)
If so, relax, and get to understand the international type expats on this forum. You`ll learn to love them

There`s nothing "verkrampt" here. You don`t have to "hide behind your screen" - you can be open and honest. Or you`ll soon be sussed out!

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Old 24.08.2014, 19:34
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OP, if you are still around; over-the-counter diet pills do not work, not in any European country as far as I am aware. Save your money! Or join a group like Slimming world or whatever the Swiss equivalent is. Most of the slimmers I ever met have sang the praises of slimming world!

Generally OTC (pharmacy non-prescription) and GSL (drugs on shelves in supermarkets) diet pills contain one of 3 types of active ingredient.

1. a diuretic. These work by "flushing out" fluid from the tissues and is not only temporary but really not good for you! They can seem to be effective as it is possible to lose a lot of weight very rapidly as human body naturally carries a significant amount of water (MMA fighters have reportedly lost up to 20kg in one day "cutting" weight by intentional dehydration) Dehydration and rehydration is very risky without expert supervision

2. a fat-blocker (I've seen "carb-blockers" too but I dont know anything about those. I would hazard a guess that if they do work it is in a similar way to the fat blockers) stop your intenstine from digesting a certain percentage of fat. This can work to some extent. But only when your diet is carefully controlled anyway, so what is the point in using these just do the diet on it's own! I found out once that someone I knew had used fat-blockers and the side effect sounds SO gross. The fat that cannot be digested leaks out of the anus and stains clothing and even toilet porcelain- apparently it isn't poo, it's an oil and it's neon orange! (this is 2nd hand anecdotal information so I can't promise it's true, but it would be enough to put me off anyway!)

3. Herbs and supplements.. Things like guarana, green tea, apple cider etc) None of these have been proven to have any significant effect

The only diet pills which actually do work require a prescription and consultation with a doctor as the active ingredients in them must be controlled and regulated because they tend to be amphetamine (or analogue) based and can be very addictive and they are not very good for you. The only way to get these is to see your new doctor in Switzerland and get proper advice, he/she will tell you the name of the drug, if he/she agrees it is suitable.
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2. a fat-blocker (I've seen "carb-blockers" too but I dont know anything about those. I would hazard a guess that if they do work it is in a similar way to the fat blockers) stop your intenstine from digesting a certain percentage of fat. This can work to some extent. But only when your diet is carefully controlled anyway, so what is the point in using these just do the diet on it's own! I found out once that someone I knew had used fat-blockers and the side effect sounds SO gross. The fat that cannot be digested leaks out of the anus and stains clothing and even toilet porcelain- apparently it isn't poo, it's an oil and it's neon orange! (this is 2nd hand anecdotal information so I can't promise it's true, but it would be enough to put me off anyway!)
Oh it's true all right. Not that I have actual experience, but did some work on one of the drugs being used in that way, and the normal expected Adverse Events included anal leakage and explosive diarrhoea if excessive (i.e. normal if you're not on these drugs) amounts of fats are ingested. I read some reports...


BTW the rest of the advice is spot on.
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I want to lose weight?
Eat less and exercise more. If calories in is less than calories out then you will lose weight

But I want to continue big chocolate cakes?
You will need to exercise a lot

But I don't like exercise.
Don't eat big cakes then

I want a shortcut to get thin!
There is no shortcut to get thin - assuming thin = healthy - which it doesn't. Eat less, exercise more

It is a genetic problem!
Genetically you have been given hands with pick up food and put into your genetic mouth

I have big bones
No you don't, your bones are give or take the same size. You eat too much and don't exercise enough

I talked to my doctor at home and he said I should get surgery?
I would recommend amputation of your hands. This will stop you picking up food and putting it your mouth

You're not being very nice
I am being truthful. Sometimes the truth hurts. But don't worry, eat a chocolate cake, that will make you feel better









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i have now read your odd posts that pop up and i feel terrible sorry for you.
you hide behind a screen and are mean and nasty.
i would love to see you speak like this face to face. i would bet good money that you would mind your p's and q's then.
does it make you feel like a bigger, better person to speak this way to others?
do you speak to your parents this way? to your spouse? to your children?
im sure you will have some wonderful words of wisdom for us all, i cant wait....
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