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Zurich: International Schools

We are moving to Zurich in June. My daughter has been put on perpetual waiting lists (for Kindergarten) of two major international schools in Zurich and we are starting to get concerned. Any suggestions on how to approach the schools and/or which other schools are worth looking into besides Zurich International and Intercommunity? We've already considered Lycee Francais. Any suggestions would help!
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

Swiss International School in Wallisellen (suburb) has available space, that's all I know about however.
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

There are international schools in Thalwil, Horgen, and Pfäffikon as
well. These towns are all just a few minutes outside of Zürich.
Also, many English speakers live in these communities because of
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We are moving to Zurich in June. My daughter has been put on perpetual waiting lists (for Kindergarten) of two major international schools in Zurich and we are starting to get concerned. Any suggestions on how to approach the schools and/or which other schools are worth looking into besides Zurich International and Intercommunity? We've already considered Lycee Francais. Any suggestions would help!
Since some other people have mentioned some of the other English schools in the area, I thought I'd mention the local, German schools, as well. I'm sure you have already considered this - but particularly at the kindergarten level, your daughter might have a very positive experience there.

Obviously, there would be drawbacks and risks involved (trouble learning, trouble making friends, trouble communicating with teachers and friends' parents), but there would also be some substantial upsides and possible rewards. (Besides the obvious language and culture stuff, the local kindergarten will be within walking distance of your house.) A nice thing about exposure to a new language at the K level is that children (and their parents) are not yet under as much pressure to make good grades in a new language!

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Re: Zurich: International Schools

Zurich International is opening a new school in Baden in August. The enrollment list is now open so if you haven't decided where to live then it may be worth looking into that school.
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

Local schools are not an option since we have concerns about our daughter losing her good English. We speak a different language at home and she is also learning Spanish. So, total German immersion may be too much. But, for our baby on the way, we are definitely considering local schools as it would be a great way to connect with the local culture.

Thank you all for the feedback. We are actively talking to the Director regarding ZIS' Baden school location.
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

Just to add my two-pennyworth...

We moved to Schaffhausen two years ago and chose a different option for each of our five children according to their ages...

The eldest, who was 14, stayed in the UK, where he was very well-settled.

The next, who was about to start Secondary School, started at the International School in Schaffhausen, where he has been very happy.

The next, who was 6, started in the 1. Klasse in the village school. She has definitely had the "hardest" time, as she was immersed totally from Day1 in a language of which she spoke not a word. However, after two years, she is doing really well and can chat competently to both children and adults.

The youngest two, who are twins, started in the first year of Kindergarten, also at the village school, and will go into the 1. Klasse next August, speaking quite a bit of German/Swiss German - although they are not as fluent as their sister by any means.

So there you have it. If you're still in the process of looking for somewhere to live, I would definitely recommend looking at both Schaffhausen and Winterthur, which both have good International Schools.

Good luck.
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

I've actually looked into both Schauffhausen and Winterthur and found their Admissions folks very receptive. However, the schools may be too far for my husband to travel to and from work, which is in central Zurich. Glad to hear that these are still options if other things don't work out.

Can anyone comment on Lycee Francais Zurich? Has anyone had experiences there they can share?
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

My daughter goes to the Lycée Français; she has done all her schooling in the french national system which the Lycée is part of.

I'm pleased with the education she is recieving, although the curriculum is very difficult.

Even though there are many nationalities attending the school- this is a French-French school (not Swiss-French) and if you don't have any ties with France it might be a bit difficult to understand the system!
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After researching the Lycee and talking to administration there, we were still not certain about the system. So, you're right! It's hard to understand. What aspects of the schooling are you most impressed with; focus on Math/Sci or Music/Art? Sports? What are weaknesses of the system? What is the quality of teachers there? Where are teachers recruited from and what sort of backgrounds do they have? Is German taught in Kindergarten alongside French? I believe there are about 15% of children that are not French-speaking or are not French nationals. Have you noticed if they have a hard time adapting, even at young ages of 3 or 4? And, how about the parent interaction? Are the non-French parents left out of the scene or are they welcomed by the others to help them integrate into the school culture? Is there a parents' association?

We have no ties to France, except for my childhood friend who has lived in Paris for 6 years now. We've decided to stick to an English international school for our 4 year old daughter, but would still highly consider the Lycais for our upcoming baby. Please share your thoughts on the questions above if you can. Much thanks.
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

thought i heard that Lycée was moving to the town of Maur in the near future? Not far off but may be a consideration where commuting is a factor.

We moved to Zurich in Nov last year with our kids who are primary years. ICS, ZIS, Lycée and ISZN (Wallisellen) were on our list. The curriculum was a significant decision criteria for us given that at some point we will be returning to our home country and our kids will need to reintegrate back into the home schooling system. As a result, our focus was towards those schools with IB curriculums (International Baccalaureate) which we felt was the closest match to what our kids were currently used to. Lycée's curriculum is not IB but follows that of the French school system. ISZN and ICS (and ZIS I believe) follow the IB. We ended up with ISZN and ICS on our short list as ZIS is on the other side of Lake Zurich from where we chose to live. ICS has more familiar 'campus' look and feel to a north american school along with great facilities (separate computer, art, indoor gym, outdoor gym). ISZN is smaller but has a better student-to-teacher ratio. We ended up choosing ICS as we were fortunate to get a spot and felt that it was a better match for our kids; although ISZN would have been our second choice.

Probably the best way to evaluate and make a decision if you are able to do so is visit the schools first hand. The international schools here are all quite different from one another (overall culture, principals, styles, look and feel). Lastly, where schools have waiting lists, they typically are able to provide input on approximate wait times for open spots.

Hope some of this helps.
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

"After researching the Lycee and talking to administration there, we were still not certain about the system. So, you're right! It's hard to understand. What aspects of the schooling are you most impressed with; focus on Math/Sci or Music/Art? Sports?" I suppose how serious the system is- school (although not obligatory) starts at 3 years old in France, and it is not playschool either- your child will learn. It is a literary education even for math- which is very much different than in America. Sports, Music and Art are definately not their focus.

"What are weaknesses of the system? " The weakness would be the strictness of the system; again the Lycée is part of the french national education, the children work alot harder than in the US and the school day is very long.

"What is the quality of teachers there? Where are teachers recruited from and what sort of backgrounds do they have?" The teachers go thru the a national competition to be admitted as a teacher (I have a friend that just did it at 40 years old and it almost killed her). That being said, some teachers are great and some less so. Since they are on "an international assignment" it seem like they are part of the elite.

"Is German taught in Kindergarten alongside French?"
I'm not sure- I can find out for you. My daughter is in the equivalent of 7th grade and has French, German, English and Latin!


"I believe there are about 15% of children that are not French-speaking or are not French nationals. Have you noticed if they have a hard time adapting, even at young ages of 3 or 4?" My daughter has always been in the french system so I cant say. The advantage of 3-4 year olds is their brains are little sponges and they just get on with it.

"And, how about the parent interaction?" Not sure about that question.

Are the non-French parents left out of the scene or are they welcomed by "the others to help them integrate into the school culture?"
If you dont speak french you will be slightly handicapped- it really is a french school. But lots of people speak english. There isn't a notion of "school culture" like in the US.

"Is there a parents' association?" The school is run by the parents- an elected committee (kind of odd); there are several meetings a year where things are voted on (conducted in French).

"We've decided to stick to an English international school for our 4 year old daughter, but would still highly consider the Lycais for our upcoming baby. Please share your thoughts on the questions above if you can. Much thanks." It really depends on what your plans are- that is how you have to look at their education. If you Zurich is a longterm thing- put the little ones in the local school. If not (who knows what the future will hold), the best thing is continuity- for you and for them.

And yes, the school is supposed to move to Maur in 2010 (10 minutes from the actual location), because there are so many new students (if you are French- they cannot refuse you admission)

Anyway, you can pm me if you want more info.
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thought i heard that Lycée was moving to the town of Maur in the near future? Not far off but may be a consideration where commuting is a factor.

We moved to Zurich in Nov last year with our kids who are primary years. ICS, ZIS, Lycée and ISZN (Wallisellen) were on our list. The curriculum was a significant decision criteria for us given that at some point we will be returning to our home country and our kids will need to reintegrate back into the home schooling system. As a result, our focus was towards those schools with IB curriculums (International Baccalaureate) which we felt was the closest match to what our kids were currently used to. Lycée's curriculum is not IB but follows that of the French school system. ISZN and ICS (and ZIS I believe) follow the IB. We ended up with ISZN and ICS on our short list as ZIS is on the other side of Lake Zurich from where we chose to live. ICS has more familiar 'campus' look and feel to a north american school along with great facilities (separate computer, art, indoor gym, outdoor gym). ISZN is smaller but has a better student-to-teacher ratio. We ended up choosing ICS as we were fortunate to get a spot and felt that it was a better match for our kids; although ISZN would have been our second choice.

Probably the best way to evaluate and make a decision if you are able to do so is visit the schools first hand. The international schools here are all quite different from one another (overall culture, principals, styles, look and feel). Lastly, where schools have waiting lists, they typically are able to provide input on approximate wait times for open spots.

Hope some of this helps.
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, we lack time, so between my husband and I we've seen only ZIS, ISZN and Zug International. We like ICS, but the wait list is so long and it's tough getting time with them. However, our daughter is still on the ICS list and they are still considering her.

You say that each school has its own culture, style, look and feel, and styles of the principals. We actually did not consider ISZN because compared to the other schools, the facility just seemed really small and through other threads I've heard that there are some tensions between teachers and management, which can certainly affect the children and the quality of schooling they are receiving.

Can you comment on differences between ZIS and ICS as well as the Lycais (mostly about its facility)? Were you more or less impressed with ZIS' curriculum, quality of teachers and principal compared to ICS?
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We like ICS, but the wait list is so long and it's tough getting time with them. However, our daughter is still on the ICS list and they are still considering her.
Keep in mind that there's a considerable amount of student churn from year to year. They also accept new xfers during the school year in the event that you don't get in at the start.

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You say that each school has its own culture, style, look and feel, and styles of the principals.
I intended to mean 'principles'...that is, the underlying values and guidelines that the school puts in place for it's students, teachers, and administration. Again, something that I've seen which differs from school to school.

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Can you comment on differences between ZIS and ICS as well as the Lycais (mostly about its facility)?
Unfortunately I cannot. We ruled out ZIS and Lycée for reasons other than their campus and didn't visit those. That said, I've only heard good things about ZIS in speaking informally with other parents whose kids attend that one.

There's also a school in Zug...http://www.isoz.ch/index.php?nav=1
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

You could also try Lakeside bilingual School. They may have a waiting list, but it could be worth a try.

Lakeside School
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Wishing you good luck in your search!
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

For what it's worth, we moved here last year and put our 7 year old in ICS. It's a very good school, and we chose it over ZIS purely on gut feeling (more friendly atmosphere somehow), even though it would have been far more convenient for my husband (and probably cheaper living costs) to be on the other side of the lake.

My advice would be to hang on the waiting list and keep your fingers crossed!
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Re: Zurich: International Schools

we are residing in olten.we will be going back to our homeland india after 2 years.i hav one daughter.can anyone tell about international schools in/around/near our place we need only english schools only because after 2 years we have to put our kid in our place.
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