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Assistant maternelle in France while living in CH

Hi all,

I am moving to la belle suisse romande soon with the family and i was checking child care for my son.

I contacted several creches and assistente maternelles in Switzerland (and understood the stellar prices) and at certain point i came across the assistente maternelle in france who , since their job is regulated by the state, cost much less and contnue to be a very nice environment to my son.

Do you know if it's possible to employ an assistente maternelle based in France while living in Switzerland? i am asking since it sounds like a holy graal but i am sure there is something i am missing here.

Thank you very much to all of you with all the advices you have on the topic.

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Re: Assistant maternelle in France while living in CH

Not knowing exactly what they are I can only give you a vague answer, but I assume you would need to apply for a Swiss permit for them as they would not be allowed to work in Switzerland without one. You would also, I assume, be required to pay various insurances and taxes for them as they're your employee. Read the info here for domestic helpers and that may give you an idea of what your employment responsbilities would be:

http://www.perfectway.ch/en/for-fami...formation.html
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Re: Assistant maternelle in France while living in CH

It depends if it is a private one, or a subsidised French one. France is really clamping down now on people living in border areas and who are attempting to get the best of both worlds- this is particularly the case for the French areas surrounding Geneva. So you can't live in Switzerland and get French subsidised staff to work for you here in CH. Which area of Romandie are you going to be living in? The French gvt in areas surrounding Geneva are currently using access to utilities bill to ascertain in accomodation in France is indeed used as main living residence or secondary- as so many claim flat or house in France is secondary home, and main residence in CH- so they pay less tax and in Switzerland- with loss of taxes to the French in large amounts- and also intend to stop those families using the French education and health system- whilst they do not pay tax in France.
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Re: Assistant maternelle in France while living in CH

Thanks for your contributions!

I am moving to the Nyon area.
What I have found out is that there are these assistente maternelle agree (certified by the French state) that basically have a certification from the state to welcome up to 4 kids at home.
They recieve a salary per kid which is substantially lower than any other maman du jour in Switzerland, at least that is what I have been able to find out.
So the way it works is that every morning i would cross the border and leave my son to the assistente maternelle I have selected and i would pay them every month a rate that is "governed" by the state and it's much cheaper than Switzerland.

Please see here for more info: http://www.pajemploi.urssaf.fr/pajew...aternelle.html

Obviously if I would live far from france i would not take that as an option, but living so close make think to alternatives in CH and FR.
Question is if this is really an alternative or if i cannot take advantage of this option in France as living in Switzerland.

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Re: Assistant maternelle in France while living in CH

Okay, my French is very basic, but it looks to me as if that's still a subsidised service, assuming Caf/MSA is something to do with employers. If so, it's unlikely you'd qualify.

And frankly negotiating through the traffic in Geneva is a nightmare, especially in rush hours. Not to mention queues at the border crossing. I think you need to look at the costs of getting to/from your childcarer as well as what you'll be paying them because you may find it works out the same as here in Switzerland because you're travelling a shorter distance and not stuck in traffic for an hour or more. Is that something you really want to put up with twice a day?
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