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In other news, president Obama is asked to stop the deportations of transgender illegal immigrants.....

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In other news, president Obama is asked to stop the deportations of transgender illegal immigrants.....
What was that? Looked like Tourette Syndrome. What is the reason why LGBTQXYZ should get preferential treatment? Looks like that one got deported from the room.

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I think the idea was they have it worse than other groups of illegal immigrants (for instance re. incarceration conditions) and it's probably true.
Weird notion, because they can get just as killed and abused in the US as anywhere else. In fact, many other countries and cultures are more tolerant than the US. But then, it's "Saviour Obama" she was calling out to, and he has a constituency that voted for him.


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Just like teachers, most parents are brilliant, engage in a genuine dialogue (no threat of suing!!) and contribute to a very holistic, constructive education for their kids in partnership with the teachers. I'll join you on agreeing that mutual respect is essential.
I think the proper performance metrics of a teacher should be their output, not whether they followed a process verbatim. A computer a robot can do that. It also isn't about niceties between a parent and a teacher. Quite irrelevant to the objective they are trying to reach, although civility should certainly be practiced regardless.

I've had some great teachers, and some who merely found a job that allows them a certain luxury in their use of their time while paying their bills. I think there are some who are born to be teachers, and have the talent for it. I don't believe accreditation is a hallmark of a good teacher. Anyone can get accreditation with enough time and effort. Some of my best teachers are those who helped push me beyond what I thought I was capable of. It takes a lot of rapport and trust to move beyond one's comfort zone, so the key here is how a teacher can attune to their students. Many teachers don't get this, and think their jobs are merely mechanical and functional.

I just wonder about the accountability of teachers to their output. They can take on a position that Johnny is an incorrigible young man, and is hopelessly unable to achieve academically. Yet the problem may not be Johnny at all. It could very well be the teacher's personality or their chemistry with Johnny. Yet they don't have to bear any burden for it, do they? I say this because I have seen many Johnnies turn out to be brilliant and gifted individuals in the right environment and context, despite of their teachers.
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What is the reason why LGBTQXYZ should get preferential treatment?
I imagine that they'd answer by saying that they face discrimination or worse in their home countries.
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Weird notion, because they can get just as killed and abused in the US as anywhere else. In fact, many other countries and cultures are more tolerant than the US. But then, it's "Saviour Obama" she was calling out to, and he has a constituency that voted for him.




I think the proper performance metrics of a teacher should be their output, not whether they followed a process verbatim. A computer a robot can do that. It also isn't about niceties between a parent and a teacher. Quite irrelevant to the objective they are trying to reach, although civility should certainly be practiced regardless.

I've had some great teachers, and some who merely found a job that allows them a certain luxury in their use of their time while paying their bills. I think there are some who are born to be teachers, and have the talent for it. I don't believe accreditation is a hallmark of a good teacher. Anyone can get accreditation with enough time and effort. Some of my best teachers are those who helped push me beyond what I thought I was capable of. It takes a lot of rapport and trust to move beyond one's comfort zone, so the key here is how a teacher can attune to their students. Many teachers don't get this, and think their jobs are merely mechanical and functional.

I just wonder about the accountability of teachers to their output. They can take on a position that Johnny is an incorrigible young man, and is hopelessly unable to achieve academically. Yet the problem may not be Johnny at all. It could very well be the teacher's personality or their chemistry with Johnny. Yet they don't have to bear any burden for it, do they? I say this because I have seen many Johnnies turn out to be brilliant and gifted individuals in the right environment and context, despite of their teachers.


It depends on your culture and background. Unfortunately, some parents genuinely think their offspring are little geniuses, especially if they come from a country where you are told you are marvellous in every domain from a very young age and where "failure" is not an option. In the reality of life experience, failing is part of the learning process, we all fail at something (I would hope!).


As for measuring the "teachers' " output, the U.K. Education System has been very proactive in this area. Value-added, performance management ... you name it. You end with a system where you work solely to the "output", forgetting why and how children learn in the process, where data and even teaching get twisted to serve "better results". Are the kids better educated, happier etc... in this kind of system?


You are right in many of your points and I totally agree with you, i.e. that best teachers know their students perfectly well (not that easy when you teach 120 of them!) and stretch them beyond their comfort zone, appeal to their creativity and their academic potential in equal measures and, one that gets missed out, you must love working with kids/teenagers.


However, I never cease to be amazed by the number of people going on and on about teachers, but very few of these are prepared to go through the training (and take the pay cut!). I want to leave you with this great poem from an amazing teacher called Taylor Mali, enjoy!
http://www.ted.com/talks/taylor_mali_what_teachers_make
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Re: Transexual as a coach

Well, after all those pages.

The OP hasn't come back. But, one thing that bounced out to me was the fact that Madame the Trans used to play on the Men's team.

I think that when Madame goes to play for the Ladies team, there may be some animosity with her strength in her nails etc. and the Ladies team may beat the Mens team.

One other thing, the OP should perhaps visit Thailand, where the third gender is on it's way to being accepted. And has been in numerous places over there.

And my golly, are they absolutely beautiful!!! And perhaps just go with the flow, as the OP should do.
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It depends on your culture and background. Unfortunately, some parents genuinely think their offspring are little geniuses, especially if they come from a country where you are told you are marvellous in every domain from a very young age and where "failure" is not an option. In the reality of life experience, failing is part of the learning process, we all fail at something (I would hope!).


As for measuring the "teachers' " output, the U.K. Education System has been very proactive in this area. Value-added, performance management ... you name it. You end with a system where you work solely to the "output", forgetting why and how children learn in the process, where data and even teaching get twisted to serve "better results". Are the kids better educated, happier etc... in this kind of system?


You are right in many of your points and I totally agree with you, i.e. that best teachers know their students perfectly well (not that easy when you teach 120 of them!) and stretch them beyond their comfort zone, appeal to their creativity and their academic potential in equal measures and, one that gets missed out, you must love working with kids/teenagers.


However, I never cease to be amazed by the number of people going on and on about teachers, but very few of these are prepared to go through the training (and take the pay cut!). I want to leave you with this great poem from an amazing teacher called Taylor Mali, enjoy!
http://www.ted.com/talks/taylor_mali_what_teachers_make
Why do you care what people say about teachers? It's an interesting, often rewarding job with 12 weeks' holiday a year and a decent salary. If other people prefer boring jobs, short holidays or crap pay, that's their problem.

Going anywhere nice for the summer this year?
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http://www.ted.com/talks/taylor_mali_what_teachers_make
That is inspired, and I can't even tell he's transexual.

Then you shouldn't be offended with this Woody Allen joke, "Those who can't do teach, and those who can't teach teach gym."
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Then you shouldn't be offended with this Woody Allen joke, "Those who can't do teach, and those who can't teach teach gym."
I'm offended by the punctuation.
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Why do you care what people say about teachers? It's an interesting, often rewarding job with 12 weeks' holiday a year and a decent salary. If other people prefer boring jobs, short holidays or crap pay, that's their problem.

Going anywhere nice for the summer this year?

Actually, yes. Geneva!
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That is inspired, and I can't even tell he's transexual.

Then you shouldn't be offended with this Woody Allen joke, "Those who can't do teach, and those who can't teach teach gym."


Some of us (teachers) have a sense of humour!
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That is inspired, and I can't even tell he's transexual.



Then you shouldn't be offended with this Woody Allen joke, "Those who can't do teach, and those who can't teach teach gym."

That's because teachers are asexual creatures, without any sense of empathy or discernment, cloned machines implementing the policies of whichever Education Minister/Secretary is in charge at the time.
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And here' s another one for you Phos, because something tells me your parents/teachers evening have not all been that great for you:


We’re waiting in the corridor,
My dad, my mum and me.
They’re sitting there and talking;
I’m nervous as can be.
I wonder what she’ll tell ‘em.
I’ll say I’ve got a pain!
I wish I’d got my spellings right.
I wish I had a brain.



We’re waiting in the corridor,
My husband, son and me.
My son just stands there smiling;
I’m smiling, nervously
I wonder what she’ll tell us.
I hope it’s not all bad.
He’s such a good boy, really;
But dozy – like his dad.



We’re waiting in the corridor
My wife, my boy and me.
My wife’s as cool as cucumber;
I’m nervous as can be.
I hate these parents’ evenings.
I feel just like a kid again
Who’s gonna get the stick.


I’m waiting in the classroom.
It’s nearly time to start.
I wish there was a way to stop
The pounding in my heart.
The parents in the corridor
Are chatting cheerfully;
And now I’ve got to face them;
And I’m nervous as can be.
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Re: Transexual as a coach

From transexuals to self-pity teachers.
Hope the coach will not make that transformation
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And here' s another one for you Phos, because something tells me your parents/teachers evening have not all been that great for you:
I've had some great teachers, and I've had some very stupid teachers. Meaning that I am aware that being a teacher is not a special virtue in itself. Its a job like any other. A few of them were suspected of being transexuals, but never confirmed to be true.
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Its a job like any other.
Nah. It's a better job than any other.

There's nothing I'd rather do for a living, apart from maybe sitting in a second hand bookshop on the Welsh borders, listening to the ticking of the clock and the whistling of the kettle.
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I was being very generous and vague when I called it a job.
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Hope the coach will not make that transformation




Teachers moan, complain, bark, scream, repeat themselves and slag off but they don't do self-pity: too busy with marking, coping with low pay and implementing ever-changing policies!
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Teachers moan, complain, bark, scream, repeat themselves and slag off but they don't do self-pity: too busy with marking, coping with low pay and implementing ever-changing policies!
my comment was a joke but thanks for proving it anyway
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Since we're totally off-topic anyway, here's my list of reasons why teaching is a brilliant job:

1) Children are much better company than most adults.

2) You get to be creative, but you don't have to be brilliant at it. You can have a go at cartooning, singing, painting, drawing, all sorts of things and your class will think you're the best artist ever!

3) The conversations are great. "Did they eat eggs in the stone age?" "Sure, they did." "How?" ...

4) You get weeks and weeks and weeks of holidays. Even if you have to work through half of them, you still get more than most poor sods stuck in offices through the summer.

5) It can be quite rewarding. Not always - but when it is, it really is.

6) You get to meet all sorts. People are fascinating. Children are fascinating, their parents are fascinating, their stories are fascinating. It's great. I've worked with refugees and people who fly to New York in their private jet for the weekend. They all have tales to tell.

7) You spend most of the day indoors, but get to go outside more than most office workers. Break duty is a great way to fill your lungs with fresh air (and get a football in the bollocks, but all jobs have their risks, eh?)

8) Did I mention the holidays?

9) A lot of your work is transportable: sure, we often work long hours, but many of us can choose whether to stay late at school and finish up, or pile our stuff into a carrier bag and do it by the lake, or take it home and leave it till Sunday night or whatever. Not everyone has the option to do overtime next to their own fridge and kettle.

10) If you work at a proper school, the pay is pretty good. I was a state school teacher back in England and was doing quite alright, thank you very much. I'm not exactly starving here, either. I'm not sure where this idea that teachers are poorly paid comes from.

11) There are lots of other reasons, but I'm bored of this post already, so I guess everyone else must be.
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