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Hello all,

Anyone knows if when you get a surgery in a very complicated wisdom tooth removal that was completely horizontal, from outside Europe(Brazil), and the doctor there recommends 14 days of total rest to avoid stitches to rupture and also because there was gum/bone implant to the lower jaw.
And then you arrive in Switzerland, and your boss says he only accepts any medical certificate if it's passed by a Swiss doctor, the certificate I have it's in English, so not really a very "strange" language, and he does speak English, is this legal at all?

Because first of all the doctor here doesn't know exactly all that was done during the surgery, so he cannot evaluate correctly, so we went to a doctor here, my wife face still looks like a chipmunk on the side of the surgery, and the Brazilian doctor, recommended 14 days rest, and here "yeah 4-5 days should be good".

The boss says "since the surgery was not in your arms and legs you can work, I would understand if was office work, but in this case it's heavy cleaning, with short time frames, so the pressure its huge to finish in time.
In case something happens, and the stitches rupture or so, due to the stupid sickness leave days reduction, can I process him stop that stupid pressure to work, and "f@ck the health" method, since 14 days rest to 4-5 days it's a huge difference..

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Old 09.02.2016, 22:28
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Hello all,

Anyone knows if when you get a surgery in a very complicated wisdom tooth removal that was completely horizontal, from outside Europe(Brazil), and the doctor there recommends 14 days of total rest to avoid stitches to rupture and also because there was gum/bone implant to the lower jaw.
And then you arrive in Switzerland, and your boss says he only accepts any medical certificate if it's passed by a Swiss doctor, the certificate I have it's in English, so not really a very "strange" language, and he does speak English, is this legal at all?

Because first of all the doctor here doesn't know exactly all that was done during the surgery, so he cannot evaluate correctly, so we went to a doctor here, my wife face still looks like a chipmunk on the side of the surgery, and the Brazilian doctor, recommended 14 days rest, and here "yeah 4-5 days should be good".

The boss says "since the surgery was not in your arms and legs you can work, I would understand if was office work, but in this case it's heavy cleaning, with short time frames, so the pressure its huge to finish in time.
In case something happens, and the stitches rupture or so, due to the stupid sickness leave days reduction, can I process him stop that stupid pressure to work, and "f@ck the health" method, since 14 days rest to 4-5 days it's a huge difference..

Thanks
You could take holiday or resign, if you don't like whats been offered.
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Old 09.02.2016, 22:34
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What kind of Dr did you do and see in Switzerland? Maybe go and see a dental surgeon!?
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Hope she gets better soon- apparently it can be very painful.

Just wondering though- did this happen as an emergency in Brazil? As a resident your wife must have health insurance here, and although normal dental treatment is not coverd by basic insurance, an impacted wisdom tooth removal would have been, if done in hospital by a dental surgeon.
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Re: Medical Certificate

Is it legal, yes.

Most (big) companies have policies which state that overseas doctor notes need to be ratified by company panel doctors. Not much to do with language of the note, but more to do with ensuring no abuse and Swiss medical standards.
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Is it legal, yes.

Most (big) companies have policies which state that overseas doctor notes need to be ratified by company panel doctors. Not much to do with language of the note, but more to do with ensuring no abuse and Swiss medical standards.
Ask for the company doctor to look at your wife's gums. The evidence of the painful swelling will be easy to see, and he can issue a sick note.
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Re: Medical Certificate

I'm honestly surprised at the reception you received from the doctor here. I would go to another doctor as my experience in Switzerland has been that doctor's are usually "over keen" to issue doctor notes and for extended periods of time. My partner recently injured his thumb (he has an office job) and two separate doctors at the hospital offered to write him off for a week at work ... even though the injury was relatively minor. He declined ... but I was shocked to see how quickly doctors here offer such things.
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I'm honestly surprised at the reception you received from the doctor here. I would go to another doctor as my experience in Switzerland has been that doctor's are usually "over keen" to issue doctor notes and for extended periods of time. My partner recently injured his thumb (he has an office job) and two separate doctors at the hospital offered to write him off for a week at work ... even though the injury was relatively minor. He declined ... but I was shocked to see how quickly doctors here offer such things.
Not all doctors!

My husband had an operation to a tendon in his hand. Being a manual worker (Schreiner) he asked to have some days off for healing - surgeon refused. Our private doctor also refused, saying it was "good to use the hand". It did not heal correctly - but he doesn`t want to go that route again, just puts up with the now slight inconvenience of not 100% healing.

I guess that if one feels one needs time to heal, one insists, takes holiday/unpaid leave?

On the other hand, yes, there are some doctors who will book one off almost indefinitely for the slightest thing. We don`t have those sorts in our area.
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