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Re: Menopause, people.

You can't back away now. You started the discussion.
I think the men must be away checking their shriveled balls at the mention of vaginal atrophy.
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I just turned 50.
Holy crap, from your posts, I assumed you were 75 and had been menopausal for the whole time you've been on EF!

As another greatly respected female Australian EF philosopher often advised: HTFU! (come on, I had to...)

On a serious note, going back to my pharma days in hormones, get thee onto HRT asap. Way better early than late, for reasons of physical and psychological health.

Am I allowed to post on this thread, by the way?
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Re: Menopause, people.

We're not sexist on this thread 22 yards. Can't speak for the rest of the threads of course.
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OI! Behave!

As for HTFU, do you know how f@#*ing hard I am just for starting this thread and outing myself? I got big Menoballs!

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As another greatly respected female Australian EF philosopher often advised: HTFU! (come on, I had to...)

On a serious note, going back to my pharma days in hormones, get thee onto HRT asap. Way better early than late, for reasons of physical and psychological health.

Am I allowed to post on this thread, by the way?
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Old 15.04.2016, 15:17
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Re: Menopause, people.

My Mum was 82 yesterday, started her menopause around the age of 50 and is still having hot flushes! Unfortunately I do take after her in so many things!
I also didn't have children, pill for about 19years before I had to come off it.
I opted to not have HRT, don't like taking stuff if I can avoid it. Had about 1 good week in 4, moody, dry skin etc. etc.

I think I am now through the other side but hot sweats are definitely still with me, as is not sleeping so well.
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Re: Menopause, people.

I was thrown into full-blown menopause after an urgent hysterectomy in my early fifties (constantly rupturing fibroids and endometriosis), during the operation I also lost an ovary due to the endometriosis ouside the womb which was encasing it and starting to threatening the pipework leading to the kidney on that side.

Went from being a reasonably normal human being to a worn-out blob having hot flushes every ten minutes and night sweats within two weeks of the operation.
I put up with it for a fortnight and then went out and found myself a sympathetic gyneocologist who specialises in older women. My original one didn't give a toss about how dreadful and upset I was feeling, she only seemed to care about women that were pregnant; she was young though... nature will hopefully pay her back one day!

I've been on HRT in gel form ever since (Oestrogel) and don't intend to stop if I can help it. The couple of times I've tried to wean myself off I've been thrown back into the flushes and sweats after a week or two, although they were milder than originally.
My SIL decided against going the same route and ten years on is still suffering from hot flushes, despite her doctor insisting that she'd 'grown out of it' within two years....
It's easy to use and hasn't caused my delicate skin any problems; a friend was using HRT patches for a while and her bum looked like someone had drawn red circles all over it!

There is a history of breast cancer of my mother's side of the family, I've lost a couple of cousins and three great-aunts to it, but after a long talk with my new gyneocologist decided on HRT but am just religious in getting a mammogram every year and regularly checking my boobs for changes.

You have my sympathy; menopause is horrible and yet another one of those things that would have had way more research into, and treatments found for, if men had to go through it!
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Old 15.04.2016, 15:37
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Holy crap, from your posts, I assumed you were 75 and had been menopausal for the whole time you've been on EF!

As another greatly respected female Australian EF philosopher often advised: HTFU! (come on, I had to...)

On a serious note, going back to my pharma days in hormones, get thee onto HRT asap. Way better early than late, for reasons of physical and psychological health.

Am I allowed to post on this thread, by the way?

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Only if you are a candidate for HRT. Not everyone is. It can increase your risk of hormone influenced cancer. Which is even less fun.

But yeah, otherwise ok.
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I agree it is not much talked about and I too don't understand why.
Unfortunately the person who should be best placed to help - your gynecologist - sometimes simply doesn’t have much interest in the subject. The main focus of the practice is of course reproductive health, so once reproduction is no longer possible you might find that your concerns are no longer of interest to your doctor.

You may find yourself caught in the ’specialty gap’, where there is no one who can (or will) address menopause-related concerns as a whole. The gynecologist can’t address anything outside the reproductive organs, so you are told to discuss the ‘side issues’ such as endocrinology, bone density loss, memory concerns, vascular disease, cardio disease, etc. with your GP. Who says if it is menopause related he can’t address gynecology issues. There just doesn’t seem to be anyone to turn to anymore.

Welcome to invisibility, ladies.

You have to find your own way.
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Old 15.04.2016, 15:56
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Re: Menopause, people.

Forgive my ignorance, but what is HRT?
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is HRT?
HRT = hormone replacement therapy
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My Mum was 82 yesterday, started her menopause around the age of 50 and is still having hot flushes! Unfortunately I do take after her in so many things!
I also didn't have children, pill for about 19years before I had to come off it.
Are you me??
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Re: Menopause, people.

Sssshhh. We are only meant to have one identity on EF

And no one has mentioned lack of memory yet! Having forgotten to quote eng-ch' post!!!!!!

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Unfortunately the person who should be best placed to help - your gynecologist - sometimes simply doesn’t have much interest in the subject. The main focus of the practice is of course reproductive health, so once reproduction is no longer possible you might find that your concerns are no longer of interest to your doctor.

You may find yourself caught in the ’specialty gap’, where there is no one who can (or will) address menopause-related concerns as a whole. The gynecologist can’t address anything outside the reproductive organs, so you are told to discuss the ‘side issues’ such as endocrinology, bone density loss, memory concerns, vascular disease, cardio disease, etc. with your GP. Who says if it is menopause related he can’t address gynecology issues. There just doesn’t seem to be anyone to turn to anymore.

Welcome to invisibility, ladies.

You have to find your own way.
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Old 15.04.2016, 16:30
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Re: Menopause, people.

Yes. We are easily invisible. And double yes, we have to advocate for ourselves. Between my gyn, GP (both female), and onc (male), we do discuss this stuff. But, i think there is definitely a need for more advocacy and discussion in general.

The US is a little better with this stuff - i believe I've seen more discussions of female heart health. A big problems is that until very recently, cardiovascular research was predominately based on male symptoms, responses and experience. So women often do worse in cardiac units because their responses/symptoms are different and women are often sicker when they are seen in hospital/by docs.

And for all our discussion of cancer, you are far more likely to develop heart disease.

I'll leave you with that happy note!
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"Why rock the boat?" (HRT all the way! )

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Re: Menopause, people.

I went to my GP in the UK when I was 43 with mood swings and stress. When I suggested the menopause, all I got was " no, you are too young"
I went on to develop hot flushes and night sweats, I remember soggy bedding and nightwear, almost sliding out of bed in a morning!
I cried at work once or twice for no real reason, I worked for the NHS and wore rubber gloves, and used to watch the gloves filling with sweat. Not a good time.
I tried black kohosh and some multivitamins for "women of a certain age", but I'm not sure anything worked.
In the meantime, my husband was working here in Switzerland, I had stayed in the UK because I was working full time and we were still paying off the mortgage. So the lucky barsteward missed most of my menopausal symptoms!
I never went back to the GP and just carried on.
I actually moved to Switzerland the week after my last period when I was 47 and things seemed to improve after that. Must be the Swiss air.
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Re: Menopause, people.

You might want to have a read of this forum especially for peri- and menopausal women. It's a great help when all the weird stuff starts happening so you know you're not alone or going to die!
http://powersurge.invisionzone.com/
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I was thrown into full-blown menopause after an urgent hysterectomy in my early fifties (constantly rupturing fibroids and endometriosis), during the operation I also lost an ovary due to the endometriosis ouside the womb which was encasing it and starting to threatening the pipework leading to the kidney on that side.

Went from being a reasonably normal human being to a worn-out blob having hot flushes every ten minutes and night sweats within two weeks of the operation.
I put up with it for a fortnight and then went out and found myself a sympathetic gyneocologist who specialises in older women. My original one didn't give a toss about how dreadful and upset I was feeling, she only seemed to care about women that were pregnant; she was young though... nature will hopefully pay her back one day!

I've been on HRT in gel form ever since (Oestrogel) and don't intend to stop if I can help it. The couple of times I've tried to wean myself off I've been thrown back into the flushes and sweats after a week or two, although they were milder than originally.
My SIL decided against going the same route and ten years on is still suffering from hot flushes, despite her doctor insisting that she'd 'grown out of it' within two years....
It's easy to use and hasn't caused my delicate skin any problems; a friend was using HRT patches for a while and her bum looked like someone had drawn red circles all over it!

There is a history of breast cancer of my mother's side of the family, I've lost a couple of cousins and three great-aunts to it, but after a long talk with my new gyneocologist decided on HRT but am just religious in getting a mammogram every year and regularly checking my boobs for changes.

You have my sympathy; menopause is horrible and yet another one of those things that would have had way more research into, and treatments found for, if men had to go through it!
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If Chemmie is a he, I'm guessing the last sentence.

I still think it didn't deserve the groan though.
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