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Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

What is actually the best buggy/stroller to get and also which car seat?

I have seen the Quinny Zapp, which works with most Maxi-Cosi carseats. But my fiance is pretty set up on getting a Maclaren?
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

I think that both Quinny and Maclaren are overrated -- and I speak from personal experience because we have a Quinny Speedi SX and a Maclaren Techno Classic.

I looked at Zapp but decided against it because the seat position can not be changed. The Maxi Cosi car seat can go on it (as well as on other Quinny models), but my children absolutely hated the car seat so we never used that particular feature. The Speedi is easy to push but it is wide and too bulky for most shop aisles and car trunks.

Maclaren is lighter and narrower but quite fragile. The seat recliner broke twice and each time it took many weeks for it to be fixed. Speedi works better with a buggyboard (important only if you have a toddler and a baby), but has inflatable tyres which were a hassle to replace when torn.

Do not agonise too much, in the end they are all more or less the same. If you want to look cool, get a Bubaboo, but remember that the baby could not care less. With the hindsight, I would now get a second hand buggy (any brand) and spend money on something more useful.
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

We got a Chiccho 4 me for our no. 3. It's extremely versatile, robust but lightweight. And a lot cheaper than a Bugaboo.

Here's a link to the pic of the new Trio. We got just the stroller (came out beginning 2008), which you can use from newborn already.

What I particularly like about it:
- sitting directions can be easily changed - which is nice for baby to begin with and great to change for toddler-age.
- it's perfect for town, trams, lightweight
- folds up well to transport in car, can be taken apart to store where you have room between the suitcases
- has larger rear wheels, which is good for potholes and pavements and rougher paths
- seat is fully reclinable so you baby can sleep in a horizontal position (not many buggies have this feature)
- the roof is perfect for sunny weather and light rain and can be pulled all the way down to cover up baby from prying faces when sleeping. No need for any additional umbrellas or cloths with pegs etc.

The one downside:
- it's not brilliant for long walks in forests and hiking (most buggies aren't) - but we did take it on our holiday in Arosa. We used a baby back carrier (also chicco) when we went hiking and kept the stroller to the flatter roads.

Good luck in your search for the "right" one - this was our 5th pram/buggy for 3 children - and it's the best so far!

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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

Just as something to consider with the Maxi-Cosy car seat type prams where the car seat snaps into the pram framework; my sister's midwife in the UK had also trained previously as a physiotherapist and advised strongly against them.

Newborns and young babies should be laid flat if possible and shouldn't be in the "car seat position" for long periods of time because it can affect the development of their spine. We only used the Maxi Cosy car seat in the car and bought a pram where our little fella could lie flat if we were out and about.

This was actually compounded by the sales girl in the baby shop who said, when we bought the Maxi Cosy, "Don't leave the baby in there for a long time - 2 hours max."
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

I wanted to add too, that if you plan to use the pram in the city ask the sales people in the shop if they know whether your chosen model will fit between the ridiculously narrow gap on the entrance to trams and buses.

Plus is it light enough to be able to hoik it up on to the tram on your own if there is no-one around to help (been there, done that... ) or the only person available to help is a lady of 106 with her arm in a sling.
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

Another consideration is the size of your car, where you will be putting the stoller (when not in use) and the weight (with child and without).

I got the stroller I wanted, but boy oh boy, Mr. Practical Daddy got the last laugh.
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

you are all very right in many ways..

the part about getting the buggy into the bus, i had seriously not thought about that at all.. especially since in Lausanne the busses are from the 60's, 70's and 80's, this is worth checking up on.
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you are all very right in many ways..

the part about getting the buggy into the bus, i had seriously not thought about that at all.. especially since in Lausanne the busses are from the 60's, 70's and 80's, this is worth checking up on.
To be fair, I see most brands on public transport (even the ancient trams of Zürich) so you would be unlucky to get one which didn't fit. Also, it's not too much of a problem to get on the tram - most people are willing to help.
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

I have both the Quinny Zapp and the Quinny 3XL.

Bought the Zapp for when I was traveling to the states alone with a 10 month old. Practical because I was able to take my son's car seat on the plane and fold up the Zapp for overhead storage. Personally it's a great little city wagon to strap a toddler in and go run errands, wouldnt really recommend it for under 1 year old.

3XL I have had for 3 years now and I love it. It doesnt need to be folded down to fit in the boot of my Skoda We do a lot of wandering/ Goldau Tierpark/ gravel roads near by and it handles wonderful. The seat can be forward or facing mom/dad. The pram portion works well until 6 months of age.

Basically it comes down to what you'll be needing it for- when we were out and about for walks we either saw the Quinny or the Harten Skater (which was hard for me to open).
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

I can't recommend the bugaboo enough especially if you use public transportation.
If you can get past the price tag you won't look back! It's light and sturdy and you can swap the bassinet to a maxi-cosi seat with an adapter if you're traveling, for instance. It's half all-terrain so we've been able to take it off-road some (and through Naples!). It also fits in the supermarket aisles that are not designated for wheelchair prams.
I know the bug is ubiquitous in Switzerland but I think there's ample reason for it. Geez, I sound like a commercial Good luck!
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PS If it's just for cool factor, I would say go Stokke over the Bug
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

Hey Leyla! How does the bugaboo manage in the snow? I'm interested in a new stroller but like the OP, no idea what to get! Something that's better than my current model that had to be carried between me and a passing (pregnant!) stranger because it would not go through the slightest sprinkling of snow...

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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

As a babysitter for years, I have test driven all the stollers constantly. Although things may have changed from one year to the next, some things I've noticed on some are this:

Bugaboo- Most models do not have an adjustable bar for arm length. I'm 5'8 or 168cm (I think), so not ridiculously tall, and it's is not long/high enough for me. My feet keep kicking the bottom. Also, going down curbs is a PAIN with the 4 wheels. The thing practically tips over. And it's heavy

Quinny- Love the 3 wheels. Very jogger like and goes down curbs easy. But, the 3 wheels makes it require lots of room on public transit. (Longer) Adjustable push bar. Doesn't fold down as nice as others. Dosen't really have underneath basket storage. The bag down under is a bit of a pain. The travel stroller though is the only one that can be carried onto a plane and stored into an overhead compartment it's so small. And it's not rocky when pushed.

McClaren- Never used a big stroller by this company. I'm only aware of the ones for children sitting up. And I must say, I LOVE THEM!! I'm easily able to open and close it with one hand and a kick of the foot. (Which is great cause I'm usually balancing a kid and diaper bag on the other arm.) It's super light. Some models have over shoulder carry straps. Folds very small. Dosen't rock when pushed. Nice smooth ride. But again, that is for the smaller baisc models. The more high end you get, the heavier and bulkier they get.

I guess though in the end, there really isn't one stroller for everything. Most people I know end up with a stroller/pushchair and a buggy.
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PS If it's just for cool factor, I would say go Stokke over the Bug
I have a steep hill with gravel to get to town in the mornings and I couldn't think of a more inpracticle stoller. But you will never need to take along a highchair when you go out
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I have a steep hill with gravel to get to town in the mornings and I couldn't think of a more inpracticle stoller. But you will never need to take along a highchair when you go out
LOL! That was the first thing I thought when I saw one - highchair on wheels!
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I can't recommend the bugaboo enough especially if you use public transportation.
If you can get past the price tag you won't look back! It's light and sturdy and you can swap the bassinet to a maxi-cosi seat with an adapter if you're traveling, for instance. It's half all-terrain so we've been able to take it off-road some (and through Naples!). It also fits in the supermarket aisles that are not designated for wheelchair prams.
I know the bug is ubiquitous in Switzerland but I think there's ample reason for it. Geez, I sound like a commercial Good luck!
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PS If it's just for cool factor, I would say go Stokke over the Bug
I disagree. I bought the bugaboo for my first baby and didn't find it great at all. There is no room to put any shopping or, if not shopping, just a few things plus baby gear. We both found it very low push handle not good if you are tall and you had to carry it on and off public transport. It was also really expensive, 8 months into having the bugaboo I sold it. I ordered and bought a 3 wheel jogger Schwinn from the states with large shopping basket, built in rain cover, sunshade, coffee/drinks console for 300 chf and we all just love it, narrow, really light and with large wheels you can lever it easily on and off transport and up and down steps. The Bugaboo was rubbish for walks through the forest or the country. However, I would say that if you want something for the car I think the maxi-cosi or Quinny buggy would be the best of both worlds. For our second baby we were given a maxi-cosi buggy and car seat for the car and the Schiwnn jogger is still going strong.
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

I have a Quinny Zapp for my younger child, since she was about a year old to present.

Strong points:
--Fits easily on all trams, including the oldest ones
--very light weight, as I can lift it up myself with the now 2+ year old child in it
--folds down to almost nothing
--easy to maneuver in city streets.

Down sides to it:
--does not lean back at all, which has led to my child being completely slumped over when she falls asleep in it (does not seem to bother her at all, but I certainly get a lot of stares and comments)
--wheels are relatively small, and are virtually useless in the snow
--ride can be a bit rough over cobblestones and gravel

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Just as something to consider with the Maxi-Cosy car seat type prams where the car seat snaps into the pram framework; my sister's midwife in the UK had also trained previously as a physiotherapist and advised strongly against them.

Newborns and young babies should be laid flat if possible and shouldn't be in the "car seat position" for long periods of time because it can affect the development of their spine. We only used the Maxi Cosy car seat in the car and bought a pram where our little fella could lie flat if we were out and about.

This was actually compounded by the sales girl in the baby shop who said, when we bought the Maxi Cosy, "Don't leave the baby in there for a long time - 2 hours max."
I thought this was well known regarding the maxi-cosi and all car seats but as a baby cannot and should not be laid flat in a car the car seat is the safest and the most secure form of travel and no damage is done as long as you do not use it for long periods. This is also why the sit-up seat in your buggy is only to be used from 6 months on as it is not good for a baby's back and neck to be sitting in a curved position.
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

Did you check Chicco models? They are compact and light weight easy to fold and pack into car or to travel in tram or buses, yet strudy. The model I have comes with big shopping basket very handy and useful shopping and for cities. The basket is handy to keep all belongings of your baby specially all winter stuff. On the negative side the wheels are just average nothing great about them.
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I thought this was well known regarding the maxi-cosi and all car seats but as a baby cannot and should not be laid flat in a car the car seat is the safest and the most secure form of travel and no damage is done as long as you do not use it for long periods. This is also why the sit-up seat in your buggy is only to be used from 6 months on as it is not good for a baby's back and neck to be sitting in a curved position.
Sorry, my post wasn't clear. Of course the baby must travel in the correct car seat in the car at all times. The advice we were given was that the baby shouldn't be left in it for extended periods which would be easy to do if the baby had, say, fallen asleep in the Maxi Cosy in the car then had been taken into a coffee shop/supermarket and effectively left crunched up in there for ages.

I absolutely wasn't saying that the baby shouldn't be properly secured in a car.
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Re: Which child buggy/stroller? Maclaren - Maxi-Cosi - Quinny

Sangrounder, did your mid-wife friend advise strongly against maxi-cosi car seats completely or just for long periods.. that's the bit I didn't get
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