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Old 14.09.2009, 18:48
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Re: Why excercise may not help you lose weight

Personally I hate the gym and prefer to do something which is more fun, like go for a cycle ride, go on my kayak, do some sailing, skiing stuff that I find fun.

I have started to learn a new relationship with food, which includes trying to make sure what I eat is nutritional and balanced. Not a diet just sensible eating!

This summer I was not well enough to do a lot of activities everyday but recently I am able to get out more. I look to spend at least an hour, normally two doing something that is fun each day.

To lose weight you not only have to be in the right frame of mind you have to have a life style that can allow it.

With the fun I have had and also good food I have managed to shed 15kgs in six months, which is not huge but on the way to being a slimmer and fitter me. (Still the other side of the mountain to lose) Honestly I have not suffered along the way from hunger or misery.

Each to their own if they are happy being over weight or want to be slim. Lot of people preach this that or the other diets and excercise, which I hate! Everyone is an individual and what works for one person does not neccessarly work for others.

For me it is eating great food and having some fun each day, it is what works for me
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Old 14.09.2009, 19:08
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Yes we eat exactly same at home. Being a man I eat slightly larger portions than her but the food is exactly same. Yes we both cook similarly.
this used to p*@@ me off to no end!

in the PK (pre-kids) we used to cycle alpine passes with heart rate monitors etc.

HE would do the pass as me, same time, same distance, and ALWAYS clocked 500 - 2000 more calories burned than me!

SO unfair!!
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HE would do the pass as me, same time, same distance, and ALWAYS clocked 500 - 2000 more calories burned than me!

SO unfair!!
Men have more dense muscles compared to women, so same nature and amount of activity would burn more calories for Men.

And eating sweets wont give us bigger butts either
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Re: Why excercise may not help you lose weight

You only have to look at Serena Williams to know that. She is a world class tennis player (no.1?) but she's NEVER going to be a size zero is she?
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Old 14.09.2009, 20:58
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You only have to look at Serena Williams to know that. She is a world class tennis player (no.1?) but she's NEVER going to be a size zero is she?
She is hardly obese And who said that one has to be size 0 to be healthy and fit? I think some of you are confusing healthy and fit = Hollywood hungry chicks.

Anyway Serena got her @ss kicked last night.
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Old 14.09.2009, 22:12
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OT but I just found out that I have lost 2.5 kg but just taking candy out of my diet. It took me 3 weeks but I feel a lot better, still a long way to go for me but, I have to start somewhere right?
This week will be back to the gym again...I stopped because of health problems but I am feeling ready to go back...I am very happy
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You only have to look at Serena Williams to know that. She is a world class tennis player (no.1?) but she's NEVER going to be a size zero is she?
A womans ideal size is between 6-10 depending on petiteness imo. Size 0 is just too damn thin, a womans gotta have some curves at least.
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Old 15.09.2009, 08:26
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A womans ideal size is between 6-10 depending on petiteness imo. Size 0 is just too damn thin, a womans gotta have some curves at least.

This makes me think back to those days before I started really gaining weight... so pre-puberty really.

I used to be very active. I was a bit of a tomboy so went "climbing" up in the mountains (in 29 Palms, California it was really more like boulder-strewn sand hills but it was impressive to 12yo me), horseback riding, getting to and from the pool any way possible and spending the day there, and playing football or basketball with the boys.

Meanwhile, my older sis was a lot more of a girly-girl and she and her friends would tend to swap clothes. So, it came to pass, that we had some designer jeans in our house...

I remember being quite upset that I did not have the figure to properly fill out a pair of size 10 Jordache jeans at 12yo, the same 5'4" that I am now.

The next time I remember shopping for clothes I remember needing to get "juniors" size 17, so about what typically is considered XL in US and UK sizes.

Somewhere, some time in high school I got up to a size 20 and spent the following summer at the beach with my brother, a gal who had a thing for him and their best friend. This I've described a bit before... cycling to / from beach, high fat / high calorie lunch followed by more swimming at the pool... I got down to a size 12.

However, that was truly spending the days in activity and aside from a bowl of cereal for breakfast, lunch as described (hooray for baby-sitting money ) and dinner with family, I really didn't eat. The point though being... even being THAT active and eating THAT little, I still was a good 150+ lbs.

So, while exercise and diet is the main idea, it isn't the whole picture. Else there would not be folks who struggle to eat enough to gain weight (I've known a few folks like this) and there are others who struggle constantly to get down to some "healthy" weight regardless of extreme measures of diet and exercise.

All I can say for me is this:
I'm not displeased with the size and shape I'm in now except for how it affects and is affected by my hormones.
I felt better about my looks at what would be considered about 30lbs overweight (even that was / is technically obese!) than I did with my athletic sub-size-10 figure.
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Old 15.09.2009, 10:49
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Re: Why excercise may not help you lose weight

Lot of parents don't help matters. Young kids are fed so much unhealthy fatty food that it is shocking! They are basically getting screwed at an early age and set up badly for their adult life

P.S- PegA this post not directed at you. I was thinking about my relatives when I typed it.
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Men have more dense muscles compared to women, so same nature and amount of activity would burn more calories for Men.
I would love to read some back up medical evidence for that. I've heard of gender differences in bone density but not muscular.

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And eating sweets wont give us bigger butts either
That's absolutely true. Men seem to like to pile it on their gut and leave it resting on the waistband of their trousers.

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Old 15.09.2009, 11:20
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Lot of parents don't help matters. Young kids are fed so much unhealthy fatty food that it is shocking! They are basically getting screwed at an early age and set up badly for their adult life

P.S- PegA this post not directed at you. I was thinking about my relatives when I typed it.

Didn't think it was... my tail is still aching from the whipping though so I *may* have come across rough in my response anyhow.


I'm trying to think of why kids eat what they eat, or more like, why parents give them to eat what they do.

I think some of it (just thinking of my sis-in-law) is to shut them up. (She gets a bit stressed over having to deal with whiny kids and thus, my niece, at age 5 still has a pacifier at home and still sleeps with mum when my brother is at sea.)

Some of it is "comfort"... got a boo-boo? Here, have a cookie and it will all be better.

Some of it is that there really isn't much in the way of "good fat" stuff that kids WILL eat and the importance is to get them to get the nutrition in, however they can do it. Even nutritionists (in the US) will say to give kids chocolate milk and pudding if they won't drink plain milk, just to make sure they're getting the calcium and vitamin D.


The problem with the first 2 is that it sets those kids up for an unhealthy "relationship" with food. The pint of ice cream to help you feel better when depressed, got laid off... those habits grow there.

The problem with the 3rd thing is that most of us don't stay as active as the average 4 year old our whole lives AND it "allows" the child to remain a picky eater... something many carry with them their whole lives. Some folks bodies (somehow) adapt to deal with restrictive diets like that, however, most of us, if we decided we were going to live on nothing but chocolate for a few weeks, would be in big metabolic trouble.
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I would love to read some back up medical evidence for that. I've heard of gender differences in bone density but not muscular.
I had read it somewhere and sure you can read up on that too, Im not making it up.

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That's absolutely true. Men seem to like to pile it on their gut and leave it resting on the waistband of their trousers.
Ooppss... I thought nobody would point that out

I think I kinda like that look, wobbly gut resting on the wasitband of your trousers, straining at the shirt buttons, preferably wearing gallus, receding hairline and thinning hair... gold chains and bracelet... holding an extra large double / cheeseburger with fat greesy fingers... tips dipped in mayo or ketchup... breathing heavy... I mean a true show of Wealth and Good life
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I think I kinda like that look, wobbly gut resting on the wasitband of your trousers, straining at the shirt buttons, preferably wearing gallus, receding hairline and thinning hair... gold chains and bracelet... holding an extra large double / cheeseburger with fat greesy fingers... tips dipped in mayo or ketchup... breathing heavy... I mean a true show of Wealth and Good life
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I had read it somewhere and sure you can read up on that too, Im not making it up.
Perhaps you meant muscle "mass" rather than "density"? Men carry more muscle and can develop muscle more quickly than women.
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That's absolutely true. Men seem to like to pile it on their gut and leave it resting on the waistband of their trousers.
So true Apparently it's better to store fat on the @ss than near the organs/belly area.

Women 1 : 0 Men
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I'm trying to think of why kids eat what they eat, or more like, why parents give them to eat what they do.

I think some of it (just thinking of my sis-in-law) is to shut them up. (She gets a bit stressed over having to deal with whiny kids and thus, my niece, at age 5 still has a pacifier at home and still sleeps with mum when my brother is at sea.)

Some of it is "comfort"... got a boo-boo? Here, have a cookie and it will all be better.

Some of it is that there really isn't much in the way of "good fat" stuff that kids WILL eat and the importance is to get them to get the nutrition in, however they can do it. Even nutritionists (in the US) will say to give kids chocolate milk and pudding if they won't drink plain milk, just to make sure they're getting the calcium and vitamin D.

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Well at least Switzerland isn't like the U.S. in that respect.

When on the trains and I see parents giving their young children a snack, nine times out of ten it is a savoury biscuit, a piece of fruit or vegetable.

A bar of chocolate is what you break into after walking five hours in the Alps.


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The problem with the first 2 is that it sets those kids up for an unhealthy "relationship" with food. The pint of ice cream to help you feel better when depressed, got laid off... those habits grow there.

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But at least, as an adult, you do have control over what you eat. Children generally don't.
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Im a He too and certainly not that way inclined... only aspiring to be one like that
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Perhaps you meant muscle "mass" rather than "density"? Men carry more muscle and can develop muscle more quickly than women.
Oopss.. my mistake. Yes you are right, "mass" it is not density.
Apologies.
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New article on BBC Health section-

Low self-esteem leads to obesity
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Children with self-esteem problems are more likely to be obese as adults, a research team has found.


Professor David Collier, who led the research, said: "What's novel about this study is that obesity has been regarded as a medical metabolic disorder - what we've found is that emotional problems are a risk factor for obesity. "This is not about people with deep psychological problems, all the anxiety and low self-esteem were within the normal range."
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She is hardly obese And who said that one has to be size 0 to be healthy and fit? I think some of you are confusing healthy and fit = Hollywood hungry chicks.

Anyway Serena got her @ss kicked last night.
I agree that she is not a large lady. The point I was making was that with all the excercise she must get, she is still not as slim as you would imagine. Venus, her sister surely has a similar diet and training regime and she is much slimmer by comparison.

There is no doubt that you cannot get away from your natural build, regardless of excercise or diet.

By the way, I'm not advocating size zero at all, but slim and healthy is the way forward. Men love to tell us they love curves, I take it they mean, in all the right places ie. boobs and bum (but still with a tiny waist!!!)

When was the last time you saw a good looking male celebrity, footballer etc. with a weighty female on his arm? they all go for skinnies!! but thats a whole different thread eh?
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