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15.03.2010, 13:44
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | According to one study, also people who claimed to be in "pretty happy" or "very happy" marriages still cheated..and only 25% of men who cheated claimed that they had some marital problems prior to that. Scary.. because for me personally that's the worst, when you assumed everything is perfect and didn't even see it coming. | | | | | We know statistics are well statistics. If cheating was equivalent of slipping on banana skin and accidentally landing your key inside a stranger's lock then I would understand the above statistic. People are very good at lying to themselves and making excuses. My point is that cheating is a very deliberate and full on act that does not just happen unless you want it to happen.
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15.03.2010, 13:50
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat?
As a matter of interest, which is considered to be worse - emotional or physical infidelity?
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | According to one study, also people who claimed to be in "pretty happy" or "very happy" marriages still cheated..and only 25% of men who cheated claimed that they had some marital problems prior to that. Scary.. because for me personally that's the worst, when you assumed everything is perfect and didn't even see it coming. | | | | | Yea - do it to them before they do it to you - you bring the champers I'll get the room - Widder OK for you?
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15.03.2010, 13:51
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | As a matter of interest, which is considered to be worse - emotional or physical infidelity? | | | | | Well that's easy - men, apparently, think with their dicks so for them its obviously physical.
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15.03.2010, 13:52
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | I think it is possible that some people cheat simply because an opportunity is there. They may not have realized that they would ever do it and may not have gone looking for it. But I believe this to be true some of the time... especially for men (no offense). | | | | | That's not true.
I've been doing some reading about this topic.
Some decades ago men did cheated more then women because the simple fact that they had the opportunities and the women not, because at that time the norm was for the women to stay at home.
Now days the cheating percent between men and women is close to 50/50. The modern woman is working away from the home, and has equally as many opportunities to meet and sleep with other men as men to meet women and are equally as much of cheaters as men. | Quote: | |  | | | According to one study, also people who claimed to be in "pretty happy" or "very happy" marriages still cheated.. | | | | | Very sad indeed | 
15.03.2010, 13:52
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | I think so. In any case, it's been proven to be a phallusy.  | | | | | I never took to reading Freud. He was too much of a coach potato. | 
15.03.2010, 13:54
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | because of the kids? | | | | | So kids were not important enough to not cheat in the first place? Why are kids suddenly important after you cheat? A cheating mother or father is hardly a good role model.
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15.03.2010, 13:56
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | That's not true.
I've been doing some reading about this topic.
Some decades ago men did cheated more then women because the simple fact that they had the opportunities and the women not, because at that time the norm was for the women to stay at home.
Now days the cheating percent between men and women is close to 50/50. The modern woman is working away from the home, and has equally as many opportunities to meet and sleep with other men as men to meet women and are equally as much of cheaters as men.
Very sad indeed  | | | | | I once saw a piece that said 30% of british children born in wedlock were not fathered by the nominal father (as in the guy who was being passed off as the father) that strikes me as being a pretty high proportion which, considering the hit ratio of sex means either all the brits do is cheat on each other or there are a couple of very sucessful studs out there.
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15.03.2010, 13:59
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | I think so. In any case, it's been proven to be a phallusy.  | | | | | More like a case of Coitus ergo sum | Quote: | |  | | | Some sad men just have no self control. Shoving their key in all kinds of dirty locks instead of looking after one lovely well oiled lock. | | | | | Thats an assumption. What if all of them are clean locks?  | 
15.03.2010, 13:59
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | I once saw a piece that said 30% of british children born in wedlock were not fathered by the nominal father (as in the guy who was being passed off as the father) that strikes me as being a pretty high proportion which, considering the hit ratio of sex means either all the brits do is cheat on each other or there are a couple of very sucessful studs out there. | | | | | Having worked in human clinical genetics, I would say that figure is highly exaggerated. We came across very few cases of non-paternity, if any.
Edit: quick search puts the median rate at 3.7% (has been reported up to 30% though)
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15.03.2010, 13:59
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | That's not true.
I've been doing some reading about this topic.
Some decades ago men did cheated more then women because the simple fact that they had the opportunities and the women not, because at that time the norm was for the women to stay at home.
Now days the cheating percent between men and women is close to 50/50. The modern woman is working away from the home, and has equally as many opportunities to meet and sleep with other men as men to meet women and are equally as much of cheaters as men. | | | | | I guess I just meant that I believe that men are more likely to cheat given this reason. (An opportunity being there) I haven't researched it... only speaking from my own experience. I believe - generally speaking - that men WOULD have a more difficult time turning down no-strings-attached sex than a woman would. (Not all men, not all women. Just in general terms)
I don't believe that men are more likely than women to cheat and wasn't trying to convey that. We all have opportunities. In fact I would guess that women have MORE opportunities since it seems that all one would have to do is walk into a club, find a target, and say "Wanna f**k?" and be in business. I don't think it's as easy for men to find willing participants as it is for women.
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15.03.2010, 14:00
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | As a matter of interest, which is considered to be worse - emotional or physical infidelity? | | | | |
Physical... it's pretty tough to catch STDs from emotional infidelity. | 
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | That's not true.
I've been doing some reading about this topic.
Some decades ago men did cheated more then women because the simple fact that they had the opportunities and the women not, because at that time the norm was for the women to stay at home.
Now days the cheating percent between men and women is close to 50/50. The modern woman is working away from the home, and has equally as many opportunities to meet and sleep with other men as men to meet women and are equally as much of cheaters as men. | | | | | Statistically, and leaving homosexuality etc out of the equation, and also the possibility that some men may cheat with single women, then brushing aside these cases which probably don't affect the statistic much: If a man cheats then there must also be a woman who is cheating. So if statistically more men cheat than woman, then by the same statistic, those women who do cheat must be doing so with more partners than their male counterparts (I suppose these are the loose locks of the metaphor). If more woman are cheating now than in the past, and the corresponīng figure for men hasn't changed to the same degree, this means women who cheat are getting fewer partners (so better locks). But however you twist this statistic, it's not going to prove that men cheat and women don't, or that men have or had a stronger urge to cheat.
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15.03.2010, 14:01
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat?
Hmm, some men feel they can't be husbands and lovers at the same time. Being told off for staying at work late AGAIN (which happens to pay for the nice house/car/etc.), then having to listen to a rundown of how the kids puked all over the sofa (we need a new sofa, NOW!) and then not having sex because your wife is too tired, it just makes the mind wander and wonder about what other life is possible.
But the guy feels emotionally attached to his wife and the kids, too much to leave, so he outsources some of the things he misses. Like not being nagged the moment he walks in, not having to justify wanting to have sex without a great deal of talking and maybe the thrill of taking off underwear that can't be washed at 60°. He has absolutely no intention of leaving his wife and will "behave" for a while if he feels he might get caught, but the thrill of the chase is just too big.
Maybe it's because I don't believe in love and happily ever after any more but I don't think cheating is a capital sin as long as you...
...have actually tried to find a solution with your partner and discussed certain things rather than just make assumptions
...use protection and make sure you don't bring any "souvenirs" home
...are not doing it with the intent of leaving your partner, because then you should definitely do the leaving first
...don't spend money on your sport that your family will miss, always pay cash, unless you can book it as a business expense
...are discreet about it - I think the humiliation of everyone knowing you are being cheated on is one of the worst aspects
...keep your hands off people within your circle of friends and especially partner's relatives
...be clear about your objectives with your lover
...don't cease to have sex with your partner just because you feel that the ditzy bimbo/self-confident mature woman/personal trainer is sooo much hotter - that is, if your partner still wants sex, some seem to give up on the concept entirely
I cheated once because I didn't feel like he fancied me any more and only had one "menu" for the bedroom. Sure, it worked, but you don't want to do the same things every single time. Tried talking to him, tried just taking the lead, tried and tried. So in the end, I was tempted by someone else and came to the conclusion that I needed to end the relationship. Which I did soon after.
It's not that I think cheating should be accepted, but there are many different ways and reasons, so I don't judge quickly. And if I am the "other woman", I make it absolutely clear that I don't want to break anything up and want to remain free at all times. I don't intentionally seek out married men and if it does go that way, I refuse to hear any bad-mouthing of the wife - if he still insists, I'll simply start taking her side. If you know what's wrong, you should be fair to the person and tell them, not a stranger. And I won't see him again, because it's one thing to need distraction, another to want to escape but be too much of a coward to do it.
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15.03.2010, 14:02
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | Physical... it's pretty tough to catch STDs from emotional infidelity.  | | | | | ture, but you can still catch head fxxk
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15.03.2010, 14:03
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | Having worked in human clinical genetics, I would say that figure is highly exaggerated. We came across very few cases of non-paternity, if any. | | | | | I think so too.
We have this database in Iceland where you can track down every icelander and check how you are related. This was used in medical researches in researches of genetic diseases. Of curse there came up 'old family secrets', but 30%?  Don't think so.
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | I think so too.
We have this database in Iceland where you can track down every icelander and check how you are related. | | | | | So, all Icelanders are related? That would explain a lot. | | This user would like to thank PaddyG for this useful post: | | 
15.03.2010, 14:06
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | Statistically, and leaving homosexuality etc out of the equation, and also the possibility that some men may cheat with single women, then brushing aside these cases which probably don't affect the statistic much: If a man cheats then there must also be a woman who is cheating. So if statistically more men cheat than woman, then by the same statistic, those women who do cheat must be doing so with more partners than their male counterparts (I suppose these are the loose locks of the metaphor). If more woman are cheating now than in the past, and the corresponīng figure for men hasn't changed to the same degree, this means women who cheat are getting fewer partners (so better locks). But however you twist this statistic, it's not going to prove that men cheat and women don't, or that men have or had a stronger urge to cheat. | | | | | Married/engaged men who cheat usually also hide the fact that they are married/engaged to the woman they want to have in their bed. So they cheat on both ends  )
Ok...let's remember the famous words: let he who is without sin, cast the first stone
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Ok...let's remember the famous words: let he who is without sin, cast the first stone | | | | | Bugger! Missed!
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| | | Re: Why do people cheat? | Quote: | |  | | | not having sex because your wife is too tired | | | | | Funnily, I just had this conversation with few female friends last week.
We were talking about this 'need' for men to blame the dead sex on the woman. Because we have all had men who at some points 'were too tired for sex'. All of my boyfriends have said this too me at some point.
As J.L-P had stated before, women get h0rny as well. | Quote: | |  | | | So, all Icelanders are related? That would explain a lot.  | | | | | Yes, in average at the 7.-8. generation.
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