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Our kids have all the recommended immunizations - but I honestly have never even heard of a chicken pox vaccine
It's listed in the current Schweizerischer Impfplan (Swiss vaccination schedule). I don't know how old your kids are, but this is a relatively new vaccine, introduced in the US in 1995 and in Europe a few years later. It is still not a routine childhood vaccine here, so if your kids got chicken pox, it probably wouldn't have come up with your doctor.
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Old 10.05.2014, 15:27
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It's listed in the current Schweizerischer Impfplan (Swiss vaccination schedule). I don't know how old your kids are, but this is a relatively new vaccine, introduced in the US in 1995 and in Europe a few years later. It is still not a routine childhood vaccine here, so if your kids got chicken pox, it probably wouldn't have come up with your doctor.
Our son is 2 and our daughter 6 weeks. Obviously, the girl hasn't been vaccinated yet.
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It's listed in the current Schweizerischer Impfplan (Swiss vaccination schedule). I don't know how old your kids are, but this is a relatively new vaccine, introduced in the US in 1995 and in Europe a few years later. It is still not a routine childhood vaccine here, so if your kids got chicken pox, it probably wouldn't have come up with your doctor.
I just checked: it's only recommended for kids between 11 and 15 years.
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Old 10.05.2014, 16:00
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Just as a side note, the chicken pox (Windpocken) vaccination isn't currently standard here unless a child hasn't gotten it by the time he or she is 11 years old (or a bit older). I'm not sure if this has changed over the years.

My older kids (3 and 5) got it over Christmas and it was pretty rotten for one of them. I'm seriously considering vaccinating the third one.
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I just checked: it's only recommended for kids between 11 and 15 years.
So we agree
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I have just been looking at our son's vaccination records as they have a medical at school next week and have noticed that there is a place for the doctor to record the date and sign to say that the child has had chicken pox.

When we came here we had his book from Belgium with all the vaccination info in it and the doctor here just transferred that info to the record card here and added the new ones he received. The Belgian book didn't record that he had chicken pox when he was four so it isn't noted and stamped on the Swiss card.

He is 14 now so I'm guessing that they will recommend him to get the chicken pox vaccine. Do you think it will be OK if I just put a note will his vaccination record saying that he had chicken pox when he was four. I can give them the exact date as he came out in spots on the morning of my mother in laws funeral.

I am pro vaccination but don't see the point in him having an unnecessary vaccine especially given that he is needle phobic and he'll already be having the tetanus/diphtheria/whooping cough booster.
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Old 10.05.2014, 19:18
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I have just been looking at our son's vaccination records as they have a medical at school next week and have noticed that there is a place for the doctor to record the date and sign to say that the child has had chicken pox.

When we came here we had his book from Belgium with all the vaccination info in it and the doctor here just transferred that info to the record card here and added the new ones he received. The Belgian book didn't record that he had chicken pox when he was four so it isn't noted and stamped on the Swiss card.

He is 14 now so I'm guessing that they will recommend him to get the chicken pox vaccine. Do you think it will be OK if I just put a note will his vaccination record saying that he had chicken pox when he was four. I can give them the exact date as he came out in spots on the morning of my mother in laws funeral.

I am pro vaccination but don't see the point in him having an unnecessary vaccine especially given that he is needle phobic and he'll already be having the tetanus/diphtheria/whooping cough booster.
I know it won't help with the needle phobia, but a blood test would confirm that your son has had the chicken pox. Otherwise, it's just a recommendation, so you can explain your situation and refuse the vaccine (and perhaps have it confirmed on an occasion that blood already needs to be drawn).

It's funny, but I'm in the same situation-my girls had it over Christmas break, so we had it confirmed in a pharmacy and they never saw their doctor! I hadn't thought about it at all...
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I know it won't help with the needle phobia, but a blood test would confirm that your son has had the chicken pox. Otherwise, it's just a recommendation, so you can explain your situation and refuse the vaccine (and perhaps have it confirmed on an occasion that blood already needs to be drawn).

It's funny, but I'm in the same situation-my girls had it over Christmas break, so we had it confirmed in a pharmacy and they never saw their doctor! I hadn't thought about it at all...
Both my kids got chicken pox, but I'm absolutely positive that nothing was written down about it in their vaccination records!

If I were you, I'd just say no thanks to the vax, since you know your son had it. It's not as if it's compulsory anyway.
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Both my kids got chicken pox, but I'm absolutely positive that nothing was written down about it in their vaccination records!

If I were you, I'd just say no thanks to the vax, since you know your son had it. It's not as if it's compulsory anyway.
That's what I intend to do. I will put a little note with the records saying that he definitely had chicken pox and giving the dates.
There is no doubt whatsoever that he had it, he was covered in spots from his neck down to his toes ( luckily he had none at all on his head and face) at a time when most of his class at school had it too. It would be totally unnecessary for him to have the vaccine.

It's unlikely that he will be having a blood sample taken any time soon unless he gets really sick or is hospitalised for some reason so not very likely we'll get to check it out.
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Old 11.05.2014, 07:17
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So we agree
I never indicated that I disagree with you - I just said that our doctor never said a word about it
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I am pro vaccination but don't see the point in him having an unnecessary vaccine especially given that he is needle phobic and he'll already be having the tetanus/diphtheria/whooping cough booster.
Every child is needle phobic :-) heck, I'm needle phobic and I'm 37!

No, seriously: nobody's going to force you to get your son vaccinated - just tell the school that he's already had the chicken pox and that's it. I wouldn't write it on the vaccination passport myself. If you feel it's necessary that it's there, ask a doctor to fill it in an sign it.
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Every child is needle phobic :-) heck, I'm needle phobic and I'm 37!

No, seriously: nobody's going to force you to get your son vaccinated - just tell the school that he's already had the chicken pox and that's it. I wouldn't write it on the vaccination passport myself. If you feel it's necessary that it's there, ask a doctor to fill it in an sign it.
I didn't say I would write it in the passport, I said I would put a note with the passport for him to take to school with him.
It's the first time I've even noticed the space to write the info regarding chicken pox.
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Yeah, what about it? It's really poor form to post random links without even a hint of what it contains or what you think about it. I took the time to glance at it (in case it was something needing moderator action) and it seems to be just another anti-vaxer selectively picking away at so-called "lies" which exist only in their own interpretation.
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A reminder of the lethal danger of not vaccinating children.

Vaccinating a child can save the lives of other children with whom the vaccinated child comes in contact.
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Stories like that break my heart. Four weeks old
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A reminder of the lethal danger of not vaccinating children.

Vaccinating a child can save the lives of other children with whom the vaccinated child comes in contact.
Exactly! Herd immunity is so important for everyone, and especially for those who cannot be immunised (health reasons, too young etc). Vaccinations have always been important to me and reading more and more stories on the news on whooping cough, mumps or measles outbreaks because of people not vaccinating their children makes me so angry and sad.
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A reminder of the lethal danger of not vaccinating children.

Vaccinating a child can save the lives of other children with whom the vaccinated child comes in contact.


And this (click on the link to hear what happened to him), can also happen to you if receive the whooping cough vaccine. He was made to have a booster shot in order to visit his newborn child and as a consequence became paralysed and is permanently disabled.
http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/today...3602245706001/


Who, in their right mind, would like to play Russian roulette with vaccines?


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I have just been looking at our son's vaccination records as they have a medical at school next week and have noticed that there is a place for the doctor to record the date and sign to say that the child has had chicken pox.

When we came here we had his book from Belgium with all the vaccination info in it and the doctor here just transferred that info to the record card here and added the new ones he received. The Belgian book didn't record that he had chicken pox when he was four so it isn't noted and stamped on the Swiss card.

He is 14 now so I'm guessing that they will recommend him to get the chicken pox vaccine. Do you think it will be OK if I just put a note will his vaccination record saying that he had chicken pox when he was four. I can give them the exact date as he came out in spots on the morning of my mother in laws funeral.

I am pro vaccination but don't see the point in him having an unnecessary vaccine especially given that he is needle phobic and he'll already be having the tetanus/diphtheria/whooping cough booster.
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Both my kids got chicken pox, but I'm absolutely positive that nothing was written down about it in their vaccination records!

If I were you, I'd just say no thanks to the vax, since you know your son had it.
It's not as if it's compulsory anyway.

Your children will have life long immunity against chicken pox. But if they were vaccinated, they will need a life time of boosters. Interesting, isn't it?

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And this (click on the link to hear what happened to him), can also happen to you if receive the whooping cough vaccine.
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The condition he had is extremely rare - 1 in 80,000,000 people die from it. (There are only 23,000,000 people in Australia to give some comparison).

Additionally, there is no evidence that it was caused by the booster vaccine.


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Who, in their right mind, would like to play Russian roulette with vaccines?


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Russian roulette: 1 in 6 chance of dying.

This: 1 in 80,000,000 chance of dying.


So your comparision is rather flawed. Do you understand statistics and probability at all?


Uno's garden - you're scare-mongering again by posting this rubbish.
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