|  | | | 
19.05.2010, 12:44
|  | Newbie 1st class | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: LONDON
Posts: 11
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH
Hi All ,
In filling in the income part of the taxform wich relates to income in switzerland .
Does one have to include Rental Income from a holiday property in valaise or is it only earned income as if working in switzerland,as i undes
rstyand they base the tax on a assumed rental income of 3k.
Hope someone can come back with a definnete answer to this
Cheers | 
19.05.2010, 18:20
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Zurich
Posts: 2,853
Groaned at 11 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 878 Times in 611 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH | Quote: | |  | | | Hi All ,
In filling in the income part of the taxform wich relates to income in switzerland .
Does one have to include Rental Income from a holiday property in valaise or is it only earned income as if working in switzerland,as i undes
rstyand they base the tax on a assumed rental income of 3k.
Hope someone can come back with a definnete answer to this
Cheers | | | | | Real rental income is taxable income and must be declared.
The assumed rental income is when the property is self occupied or there is no real income.
| 
19.05.2010, 18:53
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Shoppinzentrum
Posts: 1,148
Groaned at 8 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 393 Times in 272 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH | Quote: | |  | | | Hi All ,
In filling in the income part of the taxform wich relates to income in switzerland .
Does one have to include Rental Income from a holiday property in valaise or is it only earned income as if working in switzerland,as i undes
rstyand they base the tax on a assumed rental income of 3k.
Hope someone can come back with a definnete answer to this
Cheers | | | | | All income worldwide (rental, wages, salary, interest, dividends, lottery winnings, gambling winnings, earnings from hobbies, - everything), regardless of income type, must be declared
With regards to income in Switzerland, all Swiss income of any and every type must be declared.
| 
20.05.2010, 14:13
| | Newbie 1st class | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Zurich
Posts: 11
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH
Hi, Has anyone else on this site been asked to do both a UK and ZUR tax return? If so, do you have any advice on whether to do them together vs. seperately and also whether to use an accountant?
| 
01.07.2010, 21:46
|  | Member | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Geroldswil
Posts: 200
Groaned at 26 Times in 18 Posts
Thanked 121 Times in 68 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH
Quick question : If one has property in Germany , by declaring the rental income in Switzerland is one no longer required to declare same in Germany ?
thanks
| 
01.07.2010, 22:51
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Züri Oberland
Posts: 4,895
Groaned at 233 Times in 155 Posts
Thanked 4,608 Times in 1,769 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH | Quote: | |  | | | Quick question : If one has property in Germany , by declaring the rental income in Switzerland is one no longer required to declare same in Germany ?
thanks | | | | | You only pay the tax once - Germany or Switzerland. I don't know about German taxes, couldn't you write the income against your German tax allowance. However, either way it's part of your assets and should be declared in Switzerland and will be subject to a very mild wealth tax...
| | This user would like to thank AbFab for this useful post: | | 
01.07.2010, 22:54
|  | Member | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Geroldswil
Posts: 200
Groaned at 26 Times in 18 Posts
Thanked 121 Times in 68 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH | Quote: | |  | | | You only pay the tax once - Germany or Switzerland. I don't know about German taxes, couldn't you write the income against your German tax allowance. However, either way it's part of your assets and should be declared in Switzerland and will be subject to a very mild wealth tax... | | | | | Thank you very much ! To answer your question I believe as I live outside Germany I receive absolutely zero tax allowance...
| 
02.07.2010, 10:30
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Shoppinzentrum
Posts: 1,148
Groaned at 8 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 393 Times in 272 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH | Quote: | |  | | | Quick question : If one has property in Germany , by declaring the rental income in Switzerland is one no longer required to declare same in Germany ?
thanks | | | | | The German tax authorities will require you to lodge a tax return with your income details as earnt in Germany
The Swiss tax authorities will require you to lodge a tax return with your income details as earnt in the entire world. Because you reside here.
Due to the double tax agreement between Switzerland and Germany, the tax paid in Germany can be offset against your Swiss tax, so the net result is you only pay once.
BUT: you must file the tax return in Germany for your Germany income. Otherwise, the German authorities may think you are practising tax avoidance, and recently we have seen what the German tax authorities attitude to tax avoidance is like...
__________________
Die Beine werden hart und steif
| | This user would like to thank FriendlyKiwi for this useful post: | | 
12.02.2011, 12:05
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zug, CH
Posts: 1,223
Groaned at 36 Times in 32 Posts
Thanked 1,426 Times in 582 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH
It's that time of year again, so I'm resurrecting one of the most useful threads ever posted on EF. | Quote: | |  | | | You need to fill in 30.4 if you own a car - they calculate the value | | | | |
I've never had a vehicle before, so this hasn't been an issue, but what exactly do I do here? More to the point - I'm leasing since August, so I don't actually own it yet. Do I still need to fill this in? It seems that this is likely to be an asset tax of some sort, and if it's leased I'd think I don't need to pay anything on it... but since I'm a good little wannabe-Swiss, I want to make sure I do it right.
Edit for clarity: there are four fields on line 30.4. The 2nd and 3rd are obvious - but is the first the make/model of the vehicle? What's the 4th?
Last edited by Corbets; 12.02.2011 at 12:22.
| | This user would like to thank Corbets for this useful post: | | 
13.02.2011, 15:15
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Zug, CH
Posts: 1,223
Groaned at 36 Times in 32 Posts
Thanked 1,426 Times in 582 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH | Quote: | |  | | | It's that time of year again, so I'm resurrecting one of the most useful threads ever posted on EF.
I've never had a vehicle before, so this hasn't been an issue, but what exactly do I do here? More to the point - I'm leasing since August, so I don't actually own it yet. Do I still need to fill this in? It seems that this is likely to be an asset tax of some sort, and if it's leased I'd think I don't need to pay anything on it... but since I'm a good little wannabe-Swiss, I want to make sure I do it right. 
Edit for clarity: there are four fields on line 30.4. The 2nd and 3rd are obvious - but is the first the make/model of the vehicle? What's the 4th? | | | | |
To answer my own question, I read the handbook that comes with your paper tax details. According to that, "Nicht deklariert werden müssen geleaste Fahrzeuge." So you don't declare leased vehicles.
| 
25.02.2011, 21:32
| | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK
Posts: 1,002
Groaned at 109 Times in 65 Posts
Thanked 348 Times in 226 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH
Do Familienzulage payments from the Arbeitlosenkasse go on line 3.4, and the Taggelder on line 3.3. or should the Steuerbarer Betrag go on line 3.3?
| 
08.03.2011, 20:43
|  | Member | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Zurich
Posts: 162
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 188 Times in 44 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH
Hello
I checked this thread and there was no mention of the below.
1. I am in a rented house.Can i claim the Hausrat Premium under any headings?
2. Is the Pauschal of 700 CHF allowed for travel irrespective of whether you own a Fahrrad or Kleinmotorrad ( 1.2 under Berufauslagen)?
Appreciate your inputs.
| 
31.03.2011, 11:11
| | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: earth
Posts: 1,384
Groaned at 25 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 666 Times in 400 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH
ref to 30.4 - they decide the car value.....
how, they dont know the condition or the KMS, you can have a complete shitheap with a billion kms or a mint example.
values are wildly different
| 
04.03.2012, 17:39
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Zürich
Posts: 784
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 293 Times in 200 Posts
| | | Re: How to do your tax return Kt ZH | Quote: | |  | | | I got married last year. When I changed my Zivilstand in P. Tax 09 accordingly, the software wanted to know if I was married either in, or before 2009. Is this why the fields for my spouse's information are still not available? | | | | | Yes it is. Spouse's name appeared on the 2010 Steuererklärung. | Quote: | |  | | | Is it still possible to claim for spouse's Obligatorische Krankenversicherung on the form? I haven't got that far yet. I can only take so much in one sitting. | | | | | I put that information onto the 2010 tax return anyway. I haven't had the final bill yet, but I didn't get any telephone calls or letters in grey envelopes so I assume they bought it. | Quote: | |  | | | Is it possible to file tax returns online yet? | | | | | Well yes it is! In Zürich anyway. Not completed it yet, but so far it appears to work like PrivateTax, only online. You still have to print stuff out at the end and send it by mail though. So uploading signed PDFs isn't an option yet.
You need your dead tree form in order to register to set up an account because there is an Online-Zugangscode on it. Then you have to activate either SMS code security, else use your Suisse ID. Finally, a use for a Swiss ID.
Last edited by BeastOfBodmin; 04.03.2012 at 17:41.
Reason: s/Spuse/Spouse/
| |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:11. | |