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27.09.2011, 21:50
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | That's seems clear then, 28 days not working.......... | | | | | I read her post wrong. I though it was 28 days working in CH. Maybe the rounded it up. Anyway I can't find the bands and their definitions and I haven't looked up Neuchatel law. Yes, I'm waiting for my propane tank so I have time on my hands.... just not THAT much time. lol.
Porsche's wife i would guess was considered resident because it was her intention to take up residency here.
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27.09.2011, 22:19
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person?
OK I'll help you then.
'En application des articles 4 (residence) et 15 (professions dépendantes) de la convention de double imposition conclue entre la Suisse et la Belgique le 28 août 1978, au cours de la periode allant du 1er Janvier 2009 au 31 décembre 2009, seul le salaire de Mr X est impsable en Suisse au taux correspondant à des revenus de Mr et Mme X; les époux devant être considérés comme résidents suisses au sens de la convention.'
In a nutshell I was considered as a Swiss resident even though I wasn't liiving here because of the double taxation agreement between Switzerland and Belgium.
In any case I would rather get my information from a recognised tax consultant who knows the cantonal laws and the tax office than from some random stranger on the internet.
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27.09.2011, 22:28
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | OK I'll help you then.
'En application des articles 4 (residence) et 15 (professions dépendantes) de la convention de double imposition conclue entre la Suisse et la Belgique le 28 août 1978, au cours de la periode allant du 1er Janvier 2009 au 31 décembre 2009, seul le salaire de Mr X est impsable en Suisse au taux correspondant à des revenus de Mr et Mme X; les époux devant être considérés comme résidents suisses au sens de la convention.'
In a nutshell I was considered as a Swiss resident even though I wasn't liiving here because of the double taxation agreement between Switzerland and Belgium.
In any case I would rather get my information from a recognised tax consultant who knows the cantonal laws and the tax office than from some random stranger on the internet. | | | | | There you go. You are considered a resident in Switzerland thus your husband is taxed at the married rate.
The key is where the spouse is considered a resident.
I imagine that since the OP's husband is in the military, he is considered a UK resident, not a Swiss resident.
You are right that everyone needs to figure it out with their own specialist and/or tax office. But that's true for a whole bunch of other threads topics too.
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27.09.2011, 22:43
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | In a nutshell I was considered as a Swiss resident even though I wasn't liiving here because of the double taxation agreement between Switzerland and Belgium.
. | | | | | Wow, that could be really dangerous, to be liable to taxaction in a country where your not resident, don't work & have never previousely lived. Thanks for the info.
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27.09.2011, 23:11
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | Wow, that could be really dangerous, to be liable to taxaction in a country where your not resident, don't work & have never previousely lived. Thanks for the info. | | | | | this is true also for France. But sort of the other way around. If your family lives in France but you work live and works somewhere else. Your "centre de vie familial" could be considered France and you'd be taxed there.
I would imagine that you'd have to offset taxes paid in one country with those due in another country. I can get very compliqué!
Oh, & btw, I'm not sure it's fair to say you could be liable for taxes in a country you've never lived or worked. Your family lives there. It's not just random countries wanting to tax you. (But I guess that's obvious. lol)
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28.09.2011, 09:27
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | If you wife was not living here you would not get the married rate, she is & you did, it's very simple.
There are a few threads when people are shocked when they receive further tax demands a couple of years later, if your not filling in a tax return you may get one too. | | | | | Maybe I am not getting this but, I am taxed as a married person (which I am) even though the tax authorities know that hubby is not working or living in Switzerland and is not intending to do so. Same got confirmed by my Swiss tax advisor.
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28.09.2011, 09:29
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | Fact is myself and BM have first hand experience of one thing. And you are claiming another. Have you had first hand experience to the contrary or have you got something to back up your claim?
I'd like to think the HR department would have asked the tax office if they weren't sure and I'm almost certain the HR dept at BM's place knows a lot about tax issues. | | | | | Hi Porsch1909, I have the same experience and it was confirmed by my Swiss tax advisor and the tax authorities both from Kanton Schaffhausen and Kanton Zürich.
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20.11.2011, 09:57
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | She wasn't here for 4 months when I came initially and I got the married rate.
Wait...didn't I say this 5 posts ago...deja vu | | | | | Yes you did, it's not universal, I think you were lucky.
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20.11.2011, 10:14
| | | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person?
And the point of this useless bump with no added information was?
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20.11.2011, 10:36
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person? | Quote: | |  | | | And the point of this useless bump with no added information was? | | | | | I just found the thread again because you groaned at me!
Edit, so you groaned again, I guess your finding the other forum really boring as well!
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20.11.2011, 10:43
| | | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person?
Here is another one so you can find it again in 3 months time
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20.11.2011, 20:38
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| | | Re: Spouse remains in the UK, will I be taxed as a Single person?
Hi, there seems to have been lots going on since i first asked the question!
Just wanted to let you know that when i registered they were fully aware that i was married, as i had taken along my marriage certificate along with various papers!
I got my first salary through and i was indeed taxed as a single person which in Basel Stadt is 14.51%.
Thanks for the advice of the tax return, all the best :-)
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