Fund management entity structures: Is this legal? - Page 2

oldmanc · #21 30.01.2012, 23:00

Stupid question. Is this gentleman related or is it just complete coincidence that he shares a name with the protaganists in this web:

Uncle Max · #22 30.01.2012, 23:18

	Quote:	oldmanc
	Stupid question. Is this gentleman related or is it just complete coincidence that he shares a name with the protaganists in this web...

No, not the same but seeing as names are not to be mentioned I was wondering if it was this guy:

Reb77Br · #23 31.01.2012, 09:55

Could be this one: CEO interviewed

swans1984 · #24 31.01.2012, 22:01

	Quote:	oldmanc
	Stupid question. Is this gentleman related or is it just complete coincidence that he shares a name with the protaganists in this web:

This guy is nothig to do with the beers he works for a firm in Zurich

Reb77Br · #25 07.02.2012, 16:49

Reb77Br · #26 12.03.2012, 16:38

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	The guy who owns all them also owns, Trafalgar in Switzerland and owns 2 Trustee companies in guernsey which Qrops are pushed through. In South Africa he has been selling his own funds for years I.E the VAM fund.

Evidence of connections to the beers involving Company A and Company B:

1. Company A promotes the above funds (see logo). See above quote and rest of thread about ownership of those funds.

2. Commercial registry entries for companies A and B (here and here) show that they are connected, having a person in common.
So which products/companies does Company B recommend? It's website, which looks very professional and stresses highest professional standards/clients interests' first/"new breed adviser" award, etc., is not specific about the products it recommends and does not name its provider companies. But one of its representatives does have a separate website naming one of the beer's favourite providers and another.

So it looks as if companies A and B could be part of the brewery.

swans1984 · #27 13.03.2012, 15:01

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Evidence of connections to the beers involving Company A and Company B: 1. Company A promotes the above funds (see logo). See above quote and rest of thread about ownership of those funds. 2. Commercial registry entries for companies A and B (here and here) show that they are connected, having a person in common. So which products/companies does Company B recommend? It's website, which looks very professional and stresses highest professional standards/clients interests' first/"new breed adviser" award, etc., is not specific about the products it recommends and does not name its provider companies. But one of its representatives does have a separate website naming one of the beer's favourite providers and another. So it looks as if companies A and B could be part of the brewery.

There is no connection between A and B, A is owned by the BEERS and the BEERS took company B to court last year and won damages of over 3 million for advisors leaving the BEERS moving to company B and taking the clients with them.

Reb77Br · #28 13.03.2012, 15:09

A and B are connected as shown in those commercial registry links. The court case does suggest that B is not connected to the beers, assuming that it isn't a bluff to establish a new clean new identity for the beers.

swans1984 · #29 13.03.2012, 15:19

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	A and B are connected as shown in those commercial registry links. The court case does suggest that B is not connected to the beers, assuming that it isn't a bluff to establish a new clean new identity for the beers.

I am 110% its not a bluff. There will be another court case soon.

Reb77Br · #30 20.03.2012, 13:23

	Quote:	swans1984
	There will be another court case soon.

Timed to coincide with company B opening in Zurich shortly?

Reb77Br · #31 03.04.2012, 11:22

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	Anyone know whether this is legal? (1) The owner of a Swiss-based international financial advisory company is a partner in two Swiss fund management companies whose funds are promoted to clients of the financial advisory company. Financial advisory company and persons involved: here, here Fund management company 1, persons involved Fund management company 2, persons involved Financial advisory company promotes fund management company 1: here, here, here, here, etc. Financial advisory company promotes fund management company 2: here, here, here, here, etc.

Just fancy that:

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	[Fund management company 2] ... fund Is a currency-based absolute return fund. It has doubled in value since its launch in 2004, giving an average annual return of more than 21%. It has achieved this by trading in liquid currency pairs. [Fund management company 1] fund Is also a hedge fund of funds. It selects managers to provide capital appreciation from a wide range of assets in good times and bad. [...] adds value by careful research, monitoring and selection of the finest funds for the F... Fund, and dynamic asset allocation between the different funds. Client magazine