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S0cial Security Contribution from Employer

Hello All,
I am non eu working in Geneva since Jul 2011 for an IT company based in India and later registered in Swiss as well.After almost a year company has registered in localoffice through an attorney and we have received a final bill for social security to be paid for last year.

Employer is asking me to pay the full amount by myself,though in some websites i can read that employer is also supposed to contribute for SS.Could you please help me to know whether my employer is also entitled to contribute for SS or only it has to be paid by the employee.

Total deduction each month for SS& Tax is coming upt to 22% of my monthly salary.I am married, on L permit based in Geneva canton and has one child.

Breakup percentage in the bill are as follows

AVS/AI/APG 8%
Cotisations AC 2.2%
Cotisations CAFI 1.4%
Cotisations AMAT 0.045%

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Old 07.07.2012, 21:34
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Re: S0cial Security Contribution from Employer

These numbers look about right to me - on top of this there should also be a deduction for the pension plan... the 'AVS' should be the 'unemployment insurance' - ie. social security contribution...pension plan is another item...

If you want to check the numbers, you could just get a tax agent to do it for you. If you are earning over 120K gross salary (including any 'fringe benefits') then you will need to lodge a tax return. Otherwise, as a non-EU you are paying 'tax at source' and 12-15% for tax on a salary between 60-100K sounds about right, in my experience...
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Re: S0cial Security Contribution from Employer

Both the employer and employee make contributions. The percentages for Geneva 2012 are here: https://secure1.fer-ge.ch/wps/portal...argesEmployeur If you print that and ask your employer to confirm which of those deductions he's making, you'll know for sure. Good luck
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Re: S0cial Security Contribution from Employer

The OPs question is: should he pay for all of these deductions. The percentages he gives are approximately the sum of the employee's & the employer's contribution.

So my answer, in respect to the very helpful data sheet from Madfuzu, is he should not be paying for all of this, he should only be paying half. His employer is clearly trying to cheat him.

As Swisspea says, the OP also has to pay his share of the compulsory pension plan (Not stated here, about 10%) and his income tax, not stated here; use this website (Geneva 2011) http://www.estv2.admin.ch/e/dienstle...er/2011/ge.htm
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Re: S0cial Security Contribution from Employer

Thanks every one.Its clear now on the percentage of contribution.I will follow up with my employer for a clarification.
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Re: S0cial Security Contribution from Employer

I got the response from my employer and following is the clarification on their part.I have been registered as an independent professional in the canton ( as my company was not registered at that time) hence i have to pay the SS fully.

This is so strange even though i was registered as an independent my visa & L permit is attached to my employer in India.My offer letter says the total package as cost to company so they claim i have to pay.

Now considering the above is there any ground for me to push my employer to pay their contribution and now its a registered entity in Swiss

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Re: S0cial Security Contribution from Employer

I'm hoping someone who knows a bit more about Swiss labour law will give you some advice, but on the basis of what you say it sounds as though your employer has given you some kind of independent contractor status because you are expected to pay all the social charges etc. It raises the question of whether your residence permit actually allows this. One would need to check your contract and find out if it really complies with Swiss law etc. etc. If the status of the company has changed they might well have to pay you their side of the social charges. Unless a more knowledgeable EFer gives you a more coherent answer your only way of finding out where you stand would be to consult a lawyer. Once you know where you stand you can decide what to do about what what seems to me to be a slightly insecure position.
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