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Tax deduction: difference to get a GA

Hi people.

Perhaps you could help me with this inquire about taxes and deductions.

I will declare for the 2014 taxes my "Streckenabo" in the taxes to get it deduced; and I wanted to know, if it's possible to purchase a GA that costs CHF 700 more in my case and get the difference deduced.

They will only deduce the cheapest ticket. It's clear... I just want to know if I can get the GA and don't get the difference deduced.

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Re: Tax deduction: difference to get a GA

Nobody can help me or should I forget the idea of purchasing a GA and declaring part of the cost?
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Re: Tax deduction: difference to get a GA

You can declare your GA even if it's more expensive than the Streckenabo, but it has to be 2nd class.
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Hi people.

Perhaps you could help me with this inquire about taxes and deductions.

I will declare for the 2014 taxes my "Streckenabo" in the taxes to get it deduced; and I wanted to know, if it's possible to purchase a GA that costs CHF 700 more in my case and get the difference deduced.

They will only deduce the cheapest ticket. It's clear... I just want to know if I can get the GA and don't get the difference deduced.

Thanks
I know that where I live (canton Glarus) they don't want to see documentation of which ticket(s) you actually purchased. So you could just as well buy a first-class GA, or buy individual tickets every day, or whatever you like - and just write down the price of a second-class Streckenabo* as your deduction, and they're fine with that.

However tax rules, and interpretation of those rules, can vary so much across Switzerland that it's a good idea to check with your local Steueramt. I've always found mine quite helpful.

* actually, you're allowed to deduct a first-class ticket in some circumstances, if you're required to work on the train. I expect they'd want a letter from your employer confirming that, don't actually know though.
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I know that where I live (canton Glarus) they don't want to see documentation of which ticket(s) you actually purchased. So you could just as well buy a first-class GA, or buy individual tickets every day, or whatever you like - and just write down the price of a second-class Streckenabo* as your deduction, and they're fine with that.

However tax rules, and interpretation of those rules, can vary so much across Switzerland that it's a good idea to check with your local Steueramt. I've always found mine quite helpful.

* actually, you're allowed to deduct a first-class ticket in some circumstances, if you're required to work on the train. I expect they'd want a letter from your employer confirming that, don't actually know though.
Good to know!
In my case I live in canton Zürich and work close to Chur as well. And it is allowed to deduct the GA 2nd class. But the company don't allow working in the train 'cos they say it's not productive.

What I don't remember is if you should include the km calculation between where you live and where you work. I think that this is only necessary when you go with the car.
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What I don't remember is if you should include the km calculation between where you live and where you work. I think that this is only necessary when you go with the car.
Yes, that's correct (more precisely: it's necessary if you use private transportation, e.g. car or bike.)

Don't take my word for it though, check the instruction booklet they (ought to have) sent you along with the tax forms.
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Yes, that's correct (more precisely: it's necessary if you use private transportation, e.g. car or bike.)

Don't take my word for it though, check the instruction booklet they (ought to have) sent you along with the tax forms.
Don't worry. I think you are totally right.
I've just spoken with a colleage from work and he confirms it.

What I still have to clarify is if it's possible to declare the lunch-meals, or something like that. I heard it from a guy but I am not sure if I could do it in my case. He spoke about a "flat-rate" or average quantity per work day.

If you know something about, please...
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Don't worry. I think you are totally right.
I've just spoken with a colleage from work and he confirms it.

What I still have to clarify is if it's possible to declare the lunch-meals, or something like that. I heard it from a guy but I am not sure if I could do it in my case. He spoke about a "flat-rate" or average quantity per work day.

If you know something about, please...
Yes, if your employment is full-time and you live far enough away (I forget what the cutoff is, but it sounds as though you do!) that you couldn't reasonably be expected to eat lunch at home, then you can take a deduction for lunches. No need to collect and submit receipts, it is just a flat rate.

The rate you can deduct depends on whether your employer offers subsidized meals (often via a company canteen - although there are other mechanisms for providing this benefit too, e.g. lunch checks or discounts at a local cafe.) There's a checkbox on your salary statement (Lohnausweis) which will tell you whether they officially do or not. If the box is checked, then the rate you can deduct is 7.50 Fr. per working day; if not, 15 Fr. per working day.


Again though, what I know is from canton Glarus. Yours may be different. I urge you to read through your tax instruction booklet, or double check with your local tax authorities. "This is how an internet person told me to do it" will not cut any ice with them if you follow my advice and get it wrong.
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Re: Tax deduction: difference to get a GA

Hey guys, thank you very much for the usefull information.
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Yes, if your employment is full-time and you live far enough away (I forget what the cutoff is, but it sounds as though you do!) that you couldn't reasonably be expected to eat lunch at home, then you can take a deduction for lunches. No need to collect and submit receipts, it is just a flat rate.

The rate you can deduct depends on whether your employer offers subsidized meals (often via a company canteen - although there are other mechanisms for providing this benefit too, e.g. lunch checks or discounts at a local cafe.) There's a checkbox on your salary statement (Lohnausweis) which will tell you whether they officially do or not. If the box is checked, then the rate you can deduct is 7.50 Fr. per working day; if not, 15 Fr. per working day.


Again though, what I know is from canton Glarus. Yours may be different. I urge you to read through your tax instruction booklet, or double check with your local tax authorities. "This is how an internet person told me to do it" will not cut any ice with them if you follow my advice and get it wrong.
I fullfill that! full-time, almost one hour in the train away!

Do you know what documentation should I include to deduct this?
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I fullfill that! full-time, almost one hour in the train away!

Do you know what documentation should I include to deduct this?
None: you write down the town you work in, the town you live in, and they calculate the distance to determine whether you're eligible.

I forget whether the criterion is "less than xx minutes" or "less than xx kilometers" or some combination, but either way they do the calculation, you don't. (In Glarus. Zürich may be different - check your tax forms and the instruction booklet that comes with them. I feel like a broken record....)
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Re: Tax deduction: difference to get a GA

going back to the GA, in Jura we can deduct the full price of our GAs. We work in Basel so I don't know if this rule is subject to a minimum distance but I do know that the full amount is deductible.
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