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You will probably manage if you try hard enough and blame it on naivety. Sorry if I came off as hard. But people should pay attention to this situation.
Sorry am I confused, you are trying to say that I SHOULD owe customs on used goods (valued way more than their true worth) as a new resident?

So far no one has said "I had to have a B permit" too in the thread. So I don't see what was done wrong. They had the option to not accept the papers, they did and now it's a case of having it refunded, no?
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Sorry am I confused, you are trying to say that I SHOULD owe customs on used goods (valued way more than their true worth) as a new resident?

So far no one has said "I had to have a B permit" too in the thread. So I don't see what was done wrong. They had the option to not accept the papers, they did and now it's a case of having it refunded, no?
You're not a new resident until you are actually a new resident. If you go ahead before you are registered to bring things in.

Customs are not appraisers, nor are in the position to have the time to appraise the value of your goods. You are supposed to do that before you even leave to go to Switzerland on your own.

Used goods doesn't mean they hold no value. If you had insurance on your apartment, and these items were stolen, you would claim for full value, not half value.
If I go to another country and come back, and buy from a 2nd hand shop items totalling over 300, then I am going to be taxed bringing them back.

I know your point is you are a new resident, but you aren't yet actually. You are moving in advance of promised work and promised permits. Which I am sure you will get and everything will work out. But imagine, 10,000 more of the same story being told every day of people crossing the border to come to Switzerland? There has to be a line drawn on what is acceptable.

When I showed my old apartment for rent, I had a couple that came to visit our place and all their paperwork of local activity seemed valid and the landlord told us they probably would be accepted as the take over tenants. So they had this paperwork showing they had an apartment only to find out they in fact were coming from a non EU country, and were non truly able to take on our lease. But that lease did exist for a short period of time. Which is not to say is your case, but until registration is done at the gemeinde/mairie and the permit granted, you aren't a new resident yet. And this is an importation subject to tax.

If you continued to drive your items out of Switzerland to continue onto another location as you were just crossing thru you would have been refunded your tax on exit. I can't speak for the other people on this thread. But I am someone that is crossing alot of borders worldwide and would say I have a fair bit of experience on doing things in the correct manner.
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So far no one has said "I had to have a B permit" too in the thread. So I don't see what was done wrong. They had the option to not accept the papers, they did and now it's a case of having it refunded, no?
Are you hard in reading? It not "had to have" but "may be to be requested to show". It all depends on the other papers you have and if the crossing point finds they are sufficient.

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. In the end it was a lot of money given the items so I just have to hope I can get it back somehow.
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Q8: At the time of importation, I will not yet have all the papers required. Can I still import my household effects?
A8: In a case such as this, the customs office will proceed with provisional clearance of the consignment and a guarantee will be required. After the required documents have been submitted within a deadline of six (6) months, the guarantee will be refunded after a handling fee has been deducted.
Register at commune, with proof of registration you may already get your money back at nearest custom office: http://www.ezv.admin.ch/dienstleistu...x.html?lang=en
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Are you hard in reading? It not "had to have" but "may be to be requested to show". It all depends on the other papers you have and if the crossing point finds they are sufficient.
Maybe it is you who is struggling to read, the customers officers said the B permit (or C) was not optional to not have the charge.

So yes I read it says "may be requested" but that is not what happened.

No one has replied with their experiences, just finger pointing

ETA: I was groaned at for this? Why? The officer said the permit wasn't optional, which is not what the website says. Maybe he got a picky officer but this is what we're told. So I don't know why me pointing this out again = groan

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Re: Customs charge imported used goods as new resident?

At the end of the day- you didn't follow procedure and didn't cost the items imported- so they estimated (what else could they do?). Yes, import of personal goods means that you are legally entitled to be resident here, and therefore need a permit. Must say I've never known of anyone importing their personal goods without studying the regulations and procedure first to ensure it goes smoothly- and then ask someone else to bring stuff in without a procuration.

Our experience with importing our personal stuff- including a whole lorry full of furniture, etc- was excellent - our removal's men from the UK had all the relevant paperwork and we had followed procedure to the letter. We also went to the border crossing the previous day to tell them who we are and where we could be contacted if there was any issue and given our telephone number, and shown our permits. Easy peasy.

You may, or may not be lucky in getting a refund. But it certainly won't be easy. Tell us how you get on.
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At the end of the day- you didn't follow procedure and didn't cost the items imported- so they estimated (what else could they do?). Yes, import of personal goods means that you are legally entitled to be resident here, and therefore need a permit. Must say I've never known of anyone importing their personal goods without studying the regulations and procedure first to ensure it goes smoothly- and then ask someone else to bring stuff in without a procuration.

Our experience with importing our personal stuff- including a whole lorry full of furniture, etc- was excellent - our removal's men from the UK had all the relevant paperwork and we had followed procedure to the letter. We also went to the border crossing the previous day to tell them who we are and where we could be contacted if there was any issue and given our telephone number, and shown our permits. Easy peasy.

You may, or may not be lucky in getting a refund. But it certainly won't be easy. Tell us how you get on.

I'm very confused because I did research and had the forms all together that they wanted, but no I don't have permit in B in hand which is what they demanded but they wanted HIS permit too remember, although it was my items.

It's hurtful to be accused of not researching when I did, just for whatever reason they wanted a B permit from my friend and nothing else would do.

To be honest this is why I'm always worried to post on here. It seems people love to finger point.

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Re: Customs charge imported used goods as new resident?

Sorry you take it this way. Thing is, how can you import personal things to come and live here, if you don't have permission to be here or are registered with the Commune, etc? This is what I do not understand, sorry. You can move personal goods here as part of an official move, where you become registered in a specific Commune legally, eg elegible for taxes, health insurance, etc.
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Sorry you take it this way. Thing is, how can you import personal things to come and live here, if you don't have permission to be here or are registered with the Commune, etc? This is what I do not understand, sorry. You can move personal goods here as part of an official move, where you become registered in a specific Commune legally, eg elegible for taxes, health insurance, etc.
I was told by the commune I need to rent an apt, move in then I had a few weeks to register. I was never told to register, wait for permit (while leaving new apt empty) and then move in my goods. So I have insurance and such but no I was not told I had to stay in a hotel while waiting for my permit before moving my furniture.

Is that what other people do? If that is the case, then yes I was not aware of such and didn't see this on any of the various websites and was not conveyed when I went to the main office to ask about the permit application.
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Sorry you take it this way. Thing is, how can you import personal things to come and live here, if you don't have permission to be here or are registered with the Commune, etc? This is what I do not understand, sorry. You can move personal goods here as part of an official move, where you become registered in a specific Commune legally, eg elegible for taxes, health insurance, etc.
You can move personal things here in small quantities without any formalities whatsoever. You don't need a residence permit to do this! Just as you don't need a residence permit to rent an apartment!
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You can move personal things here in small quantities without any formalities whatsoever. You don't need a residence permit to do this!
Sure, as long as the total value is less than CHF 300.

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In our Commune, you have 14 days to register.
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as long as the total value is less than CHF 300
Yes, possibly, probably!
Anyway it definitely always was in my case when bringing things over the border from Italy. Clothes and other belongings in small weekend bags several times a week won't attract any attention and this is certainly not illegal in any way, moreover requires absolutely no declaration.
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Re: Customs charge imported used goods as new resident?

From FAQ on ezv-admin.ch FAQ's


9 At the time of importation, I will not yet have my residence permit. How do I proceed?



Submitting the residence permit is not an absolute requirement. Proof that the transfer of domicile has taken place must be provided. The declaration of departure from the foreign country in connection with the contract of employment and the tenancy agreement may also act as proof. It is the customs office which is ultimately responsible for assessing whether or not the documents submitted are sufficient for the conditions for tax exemption to be met. In the case of insufficient documentation, please refer to question 8.

This is not pointing the finger, it is fact. I know it is not easy - but you asked for advice, and want us to confirm you can get reimbursed, and the honest reply is that you may, if you are lucky, or you may not. Good luck. Plumtree- you didn't bring your stuff in a large van driven by a stranger though, did you?
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The declaration of departure from the foreign country
In some countries such a document doesn't even exist!
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We moved all our household goods here and two cars before we had a permit in hand. We filled out all the relevant forms (including the estimated value of everything) which we gave to the removal company and that was that. No problems, no request for the permit at all and no money to pay. We didn't get our permits until a few weeks later and we hadn't even applied for them when our goods were brought into Switzerland.

People must do this all the time. Most people don't have the luxury of moving here into temporary accommodation and then bringing their goods in once they have the physical permit in hand. What are they supposed to do with all their stuff in the meantime?
I guess it depends on the customs officers present at the crossing whether they deem the paperwork provided to be sufficient evidence that it's a permanent move but I don't know of anyone who's had to pay and claim it back later.

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We moved all our household goods here and two cars before we had a permit in hand. We filled out all the relevant forms (including the estimated value of everything) which we gave to the removal company and that was that. No problems, no request for the permit at all and no money to pay. We didn't get our permits until a few weeks later and we hadn't even applied for them when our goods were brought into Switzerland.

People must do this all the time. Most people don't have the luxury of moving here into temporary accommodation and then bringing their goods in once they have the physical permit in hand. What are they supposed to do with all their stuff in the meantime?
Exactly! I didn't ever declare anything I was bringing in as I did it gradually over time. I certainly didn't have a residence permit, nor a pending application, nor employment in Switzerland before I moved here, rented an apartment and furnished it!
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I thought you did your research

The answer was already linked above , see FAQ item 7, 8, and 9 :
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en

Q7: Why is the request for a residence permit being made? EU citizens do not need to provide a residence permit to settle in Switzerland.
A7: It is a matter of providing proof of the transfer of domicile with the appropriate documents; see also question 9.

Q8: At the time of importation, I will not yet have all the papers required. Can I still import my household effects?
A8: In a case such as this, the customs office will proceed with provisional clearance of the consignment and a guarantee will be required. After the required documents have been submitted within a deadline of six (6) months, the guarantee will be refunded after a handling fee has been deducted.

Q9: At the time of importation, I will not yet have my residence permit. How do I proceed?
A9: Submitting the residence permit is not an absolute requirement. Proof that the transfer of domicile has taken place must be provided. The declaration of departure from the foreign country in connection with the contract of employment and the tenancy agreement may also act as proof. It is the customs office which is ultimately responsible for assessing whether or not the documents submitted are sufficient for the conditions for tax exemption to be met. In the case of insufficient documentation, please refer to question 8.
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9 At the time of importation, I will not yet have my residence permit. How do I proceed?



Submitting the residence permit is not an absolute requirement. Proof that the transfer of domicile has taken place must be provided. The declaration of departure from the foreign country in connection with the contract of employment and the tenancy agreement may also act as proof. It is the customs office which is ultimately responsible for assessing whether or not the documents submitted are sufficient for the conditions for tax exemption to be met. In the case of insufficient documentation, please refer to question 8.

This is not pointing the finger, it is fact. I know it is not easy - but you asked for advice, and want us to confirm you can get reimbursed, and the honest reply is that you may, if you are lucky, or you may not. Good luck. Plumtree- you didn't bring your stuff in a large van driven by a stranger though, did you?

Do keep up at the back Odile, ASwissintheUS already posted all that info in post 8 on this thread.
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LOL, worth repeating if the message somehow doesn't get through

Just had coffee with someone in the know- he says customs officers will become suspicious if:

the person driving the van does not stop voluntarily, get out and go to the import office to present papers and documentation - rather than be stopped and asked at the crossing

the person carrying the goods do so on behalf of someone else without being moving professionals and without specific written instructions to do so with detail of legal owner recipient

and if, as specifically required, the van arrives outside the office (not customs' - but import office) hours- eg weekdays during the day.

For Bardonnex Geneva: 7am to 12 am- 13pm to 17.30pm weekdays. Saturday am 7am to 12am- import at any other time is not accepted.

Our local border crossing is not accepted for international moves- but we asked in person beforehand if they would be prepared to make an exception, as we were moving with lots of snow on the ground, and going to another crossing and coming back would be seriously inconvenient- and they agreed- the lorry arrived a bit late, and the guy at the office was patiently waiting for them- and made them a cup of coffee on arrival whislt he went through the paperwork.

BTW sometimes the customs officers get a 6th sense notion that something is not quite right. One young Portuguese came through a crossing in Vaud recently, and did all the right things, and had all the correct documentation. And yet he seemed a bit 'nervous'. He had declared about 30 pairs of used shoes and 3 suitcases of used clothes. Turned out that all the shoes were brand new and so were the clothes, clearly for re-sale. He got stung- and they also found all sorts of new things, computers, cameras, etc, clearly not personal used goods. He obviously thought that declaring 'properly' with all the necessary paperwork he would just be waved across.

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I was told by the commune I need to rent an apt, move in then I had a few weeks to register. I was never told to register, wait for permit (while leaving new apt empty) and then move in my goods. So I have insurance and such but no I was not told I had to stay in a hotel while waiting for my permit before moving my furniture.

Is that what other people do? If that is the case, then yes I was not aware of such and didn't see this on any of the various websites and was not conveyed when I went to the main office to ask about the permit application.
But you are talking about registering . Not about when to import your things and be taxed or not on them.

When an official moving company transports your things they cross the border and store them in a bonded area. So the items are checked and declared but not officially imported into the country. A customs broker prepares the paperwork and waits for your paperwork to finish importation. You can actually arrange all this stuff yourself but it would require alot more experience in the paperwork , renting a storage space outside of Switzerland, and either a truck for that whole time or two rentals plus laborers.

You do things cheap you get what you pay for.
I realise you think people are finger pointing. If you want say that people pointing out where you went wrong is finger pointing is that then ok. But we aren't going to come up with a legal argument around this.

That's why you spend money on a lawyer . Or spend money on a proper mover in advance. Or money to do a proper move on your own.

What else do you want people to tell you?
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Just had coffee with someone in the know- he says customs officers will become suspicious if:

the person driving the van does not stop voluntarily, get out and go to the import office to present papers and documentation - rather than be stopped and asked at the crossing

the person carrying the goods do so on behalf of someone else without being moving professionals and without specific written instructions to do so with detail of legal owner recipient

and if, as specifically required, the van arrives outside the office (not customs' - but import office) hours- eg weekdays during the day.

For Bardonnex Geneva: 7am to 12 am- 13pm to 17.30pm weekdays. Saturday am 7am to 12am- import at any other time is not accepted.
So, did the driver adhere to the above- stopped and went to import office during office hours? Or not? This will be the key to what happens next.
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