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Old 26.10.2009, 22:28
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New Swiss/USA tax agreement [September 2009]

The text of the tax agreement signed in September 2009 can be seen at:
http://www.pwc.ch/user_content/edito...mending_us.pdf

A commentary on it:
http://www.pwc.ch/en/dyn_output.html...orate_tax.html
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Re: New Swiss/USA tax agreement [September 2009]

I read the link, and included is the text from the signed agreement with the USA and Switzerland. Does anyone know if additional memorandum of understanding has been issued regarding the dividends from pension accounts and the fact that they no longer will need to be reported to IRS?

From my reading of this, it will mean that 3a pillar will no longer need to be reported to the IRS.
Thanks in advance if anyone has any additional official information. I have started to pull my tax documents together for IRS.


The Protocol contains a new version of Article 10(3) that expands the scope of beneficial owners entitled to the zero rate of withholding tax to include individual retirement savings plans that are set up in, and owned by a resident of, the other Contracting State. Dividends received from a controlled payor remain ineligible for the elimination of withholding tax under the Protocol. In addition, in order to be eligible for the zero rate of withholding under the Protocol's new version of Article 10(3), the competent authorities of the Contracting States must agree that the pension or other retirement arrangement, or individual retirement savings plan, would generally be recognized as such for tax purposes in the other Contracting State. Although the Protocol does not contain details as to how taxpayers are to substantiate their satisfaction of this requirement, it is likely that a Memorandum of Understanding or Exchange of Notes accompanying the Protocol will provide the necessary guidance.
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Re: New Swiss/USA tax agreement [September 2009]

I have another question regarding the US and CH tax. As far as I know, when a "retired" withdraws his/her pension fund in US as lumpsum payment, US state will withhold automatically 20% for tax for any US citizens. Then since this "retired person" has no more income in US, neither anywhere else in the world, how can he/she get back (some) of this 20% tax back as the person lives in CH ? Any idea here?
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Re: New Swiss/USA tax agreement [September 2009]

How about AHV? Are the monthly benefits paid to a Permanent US resident (Swiss retiree) taxable by the IRS if it's the only source of income? Do they fall under the same rule as US Social Security which must be reported only if the amount exceeds the allowable limits?
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Re: New Swiss/USA tax agreement [September 2009]

Help! Anyone has idea how a US citizen pays his/her tax, while residing in CH? and how a non-US citizen pays the US income tax while residing in CH?

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Re: New Swiss/USA tax agreement [September 2009]

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Anyone has idea how a US citizen pays his/her tax, while residing in CH? and how a non-US citizen pays the US income tax while residing in CH?
Same as you do in the US. Fill out the form, include attachments, make out check in USD, send to IRS (the international address). All details can be found at www.irs.gov. Publication 54 will help.

If non-US citizen, then not subject to US tax unless US perm. resident/green card holder as I understand, but I am not a tax expert.
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