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Old 08.06.2007, 18:01
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Catholic Church taxes???!!!

After getting registered in a catholic church in Zürich, how much tax is to be paid monthly? Does it vary from region to region? Any ideas about the Catholic Church is Basserdorf??
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Old 08.06.2007, 18:18
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

I think it's about 1% of your wages and usually comes out of your wages at source (if you're paying tax that way, which most of us foreign-types do to start with). Apparently, not being registered with any church or religion, I can claim back the readies when I depart this shoreless land. Or so I heard.
Hope that's some help.
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Old 08.06.2007, 18:33
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

In fact if you are not registered with one of the 3 (eg you are down as Other which is what Baden did when I said C of E) then you can claim it back every year.

In my case it was just over 1 KCHF - this might be out of date as I've been on a C permit for the last couple of years.

Having said that, this is Aargau so your mileage may vary

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Old 08.06.2007, 18:37
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

look for the tax calclulator on the credit suisse income that'll tell you.
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Old 08.06.2007, 18:56
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

I always thought if you declared no religion or other they didn't tax you at all!!!
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Old 08.06.2007, 18:59
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

sure but sometimes you arent asked.....and they assume...8 years ago when i first registered they did it by default as i was irish that i was catholic luckily i spotted it and had it corrected.

2% of my income and still the begging bowl out if you attend? ever seen the gold in the vatican?
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Old 09.06.2007, 00:06
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2% of my income and still the begging bowl out if you attend? ever seen the gold in the vatican?
In defense of the churches: If I remember correctly, both catholic and protestant churches give the donations made during services to christian charity organisations. I think the church tax is pretty much their only income but I might be wrong.
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Old 09.06.2007, 03:39
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

What? something else to pay out. Both husband and daughter are RC so will they have to pay twice, she is only 6 and doesn't even get pocket money.
The more I read, the less certain I am of anything
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

Church tax rates are set by each Gemeinde (local authority) and will vary by denomination as well.

For a list of income and church tax rates for the towns in KT ZH, see:

http://www.steueramt.zh.ch/html/steu...euerfuesse.htm

It is interesting to note that corporations pay church tax as well.
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What? something else to pay out. Both husband and daughter are RC so will they have to pay twice, she is only 6 and doesn't even get pocket money.
The more I read, the less certain I am of anything
You can calculate the ZG tax, including church taxes for your situation, here:

http://www.zug.ch/cgi/tax/np/kantordin.cgi
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Old 09.06.2007, 10:44
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In defense of the churches: If I remember correctly, both catholic and protestant churches give the donations made during services to christian charity organisations. I think the church tax is pretty much their only income but I might be wrong.
You only have to pay the church tax if you declare yourself to be Catholic/Protestant/Other when you register. If you don't tell you don't get taxed as Eire said earlier. However if you do attend church regularly questions may get asked and you could get caught out. I'm fortunate to be the child of atheists so have never had to pay this tax & I have never been questioned when saying I do not have a religion.
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Old 11.06.2007, 01:14
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What? something else to pay out. Both husband and daughter are RC so will they have to pay twice, she is only 6 and doesn't even get pocket money.
The more I read, the less certain I am of anything
Minors can't pay church tax. In fact they can't pay any taxes. (You even might get some child benefits for having minors in your family.)

And like others already said, you can declare yourself non-catholic and non-protestant to get rid of church tax.

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You only have to pay the church tax if you declare yourself to be Catholic/Protestant/Other when you register. If you don't tell you don't get taxed as Eire said earlier. However if you do attend church regularly questions may get asked and you could get caught out. I'm fortunate to be the child of atheists so have never had to pay this tax & I have never been questioned when saying I do not have a religion.
I don't think that this ever happened to someone. There's nobody at the entrance of a church looking at the faces of the visitors, and this tax information isn't public.

On the other hand, there are a few pastors who refuse to provide religious services (christening, church wedding, funeral) for those who don't pay the church tax.
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Old 11.06.2007, 02:49
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

When i declared myself an atheist at my local community many moons ago i was told to be careful in my choice as i wouldn't be buried on consecrated ground!

If you have children and would like them to be educated in the Christian faith pay church taxes. It's one of those "you cant have your cake and eat it things"

At the end of the day it's freedom of choice.
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

...but this tax is surely taken out at source. People who work do not have to do "anything" to pay it?

Register....I have registered at my local Kreisburo...but I don't remember declaring anything???
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

Just declare non-religion.
You wont go to hell, nor will you be out a bunch of money to the richest organisations in the world. You can still go to church and pay in the pot as you see fit. Nobody is going to come to your door and say "I saw you in church, pay up!!"
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

Indeed. Very rich organisation...

Note that catholic church tax is higher then protestant in most places as well.
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Old 11.06.2007, 10:03
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Re: Catholic Church taxes???!!!

More church tax information is available in this thread - including calling and correcting the local registration office to say you have lost your religion:
A quick question about taxes
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You wont go to hell, <snip>
You have this on good authority, do you?
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Catholic church taxes clearing up a few misunderstandings

reading through this thread I realised that there are some assumptions that are completely wrong,so here are some answers that'll hopefully clean up any questions about this topic.

--Most of the revenue for churches stems from church taxes that each member pays the respective church they belong to.Other income sources are inheritances and legacies.

--The money collected at the end of a service/mass, ALWAYS goes to a designated charity or similar funds and is not an income for the church.

--In Switzerland the churchtax is paid with the CANTONAL taxes,it's automatically calculated and included according to the 'Steuersatz' of your Canton or 'Gemeinde'.

--If you have complaints and want to leave the church,you can simply write a letter to the local KIRCHGEMEINDE ( not the tax offices!!) declaring that you want to quit the church.

--It may be, that a priest or someone else form the church contacts you and asks why you want to leave etc. but all in all it's a simple process and I am doing it this year to the pope can look elsewhere for his income

--After you exited the church you are called 'konfessionslos' (sans confession) you will not be branded ATHEIST!! The only difference is,should want your child christened or get married in church or when you die at your funeral service you , respectively your family, will have to pay for the use of the premise and the service,it'll no longer be free for you.

-- even if you quit a church you will still be buried in the local cemetary and not in the local garbage incinerator

--Having said that,in the case of your 'farewell to the world', it'll be very wise to write down in your lifetime what shall happen when you die.Like this you will not unnecessary burden the people you leave behind.

This site( though in german only) has lots of very good information in regards to this topic

http://atheismus.ch/06_lebenshilfen/...tritt/00_index

I hope i have cleared up some misunderstandings and if you have other questions, just fire away

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You have this on good authority, do you?
I don't believe the government has the authority to make me pay the upkeep of churches. No other organization can do this, why should the churches be allowed?
I pay firefighters tax since I do not contribute, this is fair, but charging me tax on my religious belief? No way.
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