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02.08.2010, 16:46
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To make the story short: I did receive an offer to work in Bern canton for 87,5k chf plus bonuses, went to different websites to calculate the taxation applied and got different info ranging from 9% to 18%. I attach here the one obtained at http://www.estv.admin.ch/bundessteue...x.html?lang=fr (Swiss Confederation website) which I believe is the most reliable so far.
Based on your experience, can u please tell me if 9k could be close to the total amount of tax that I have to pay in 1 year?
Thanks in advance.
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02.08.2010, 16:47
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | To make the story short: I did receive an offer to work in Bern canton for 87,5k chf plus bonuses, went to different websites to calculate the taxation applied and got different info ranging from 9% to 18%. I attach here the one obtained at http://www.estv.admin.ch/bundessteue...x.html?lang=fr (Swiss Confederation website) which I believe is the most reliable so far.
Based on your experience, can u please tell me if 9k could be close to the total amount of tax that I have to pay in 1 year?
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just like that? poppin' a question with no intro nothing? nice manners you got there | | This user would like to thank Jaro for this useful post: | | 
02.08.2010, 16:53
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Call your contact in the HR dept of your Employer to be and they will let you know the extent of the income tax + any other deductions to your month salary.
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02.08.2010, 17:06
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | just like that? poppin' a question with no intro nothing? nice manners you got there | | | | | Alright, ok, sorry kind under lots of pressure here....
Let me start from the beginning: hello to this beautiful community, I was worndering if any of you has enough experience to let me know if 8-10k CHF per yeah is what I am going to pay in taxes for living an working in Bern Canton.
My calculation is attached.
Of course I can also ask the HR department but the person is on holiday for two weeks.
Thanks again for your help.
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02.08.2010, 17:13
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | Alright, ok, sorry kind under lots of pressure here.... 
Let me start from the beginning: hello to this beautiful community, I was worndering if any of you has enough experience to let me know if 8-10k CHF per yeah is what I am going to pay in taxes for living an working in Bern Canton.
My calculation is attached.
Of course I can also ask the HR department but the person is on holiday for two weeks.
Thanks again for your help. | | | | | OK..that's better
Wasted has given you great advice above. Phone your HR and ask for net salary after deductions
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02.08.2010, 17:22
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | OK..that's better
Wasted has given you great advice above. Phone your HR and ask for net salary after deductions | | | | | Is it really better? He basically said the same thing but first told you you were pretty.....
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02.08.2010, 17:27
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | Is it really better? He basically said the same thing but first told you you were pretty..... | | | | | you are right...but you know how it is...you cannot have high expections based on the original post...baby steps | | This user would like to thank Jaro for this useful post: | | 
02.08.2010, 17:34
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9K could be close to the amount of tax you pay. But it depends where you live, how many children you acknowledge as your own, your religion, and the density of your cerebellum.
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02.08.2010, 17:39
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say on 5k per month, you will pay around 1000chf (all in) to the state.
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02.08.2010, 18:37
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | 9K could be close to the amount of tax you pay. But it depends where you live, how many children you acknowledge as your own, your religion, and the density of your cerebellum. | | | | | Thank you. +1
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02.08.2010, 18:41
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | OK..that's better
Wasted has given you great advice above. Phone your HR and ask for net salary after deductions | | | | | u clearly did not read my post.
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02.08.2010, 19:17
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | Call your contact in the HR dept of your Employer to be and they will let you know the extent of the income tax + any other deductions to your month salary. | | | | | not always the best. i've seen some cases where HR oversold to get a new employer in - and there's no real comeback when you find that taxes end up a lot more than what HR suggested...
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02.08.2010, 19:35
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | not always the best. i've seen some cases where HR oversold to get a new employer in - and there's no real comeback when you find that taxes end up a lot more than what HR suggested... | | | | | I really hope this is not my case. Anyway, even the few replies here are very different. Somebody said 9k is a correct assumption (around 9%) while another post assumes 1k over 5k is what goes to the state (20%). I am more confused than before and probably will end up waiting for a couple of weeks... | 
02.08.2010, 19:39
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| | | Re: Is this correct? http://en.comparis.ch/steuern/steuer...vergleich.aspx
you can plug all the numbers in here
also a great website for other info, such as insurance...
hope this helps
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02.08.2010, 19:43
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | I really hope this is not my case. Anyway, even the few replies here are very different. Somebody said 9k is a correct assumption (around 9%) while another post assumes 1k over 5k is what goes to the state (20%). I am more confused than before and probably will end up waiting for a couple of weeks...  | | | | |
1k is all inclusive. avs, pension etc etc
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02.08.2010, 19:58
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | I really hope this is not my case. Anyway, even the few replies here are very different. Somebody said 9k is a correct assumption (around 9%) while another post assumes 1k over 5k is what goes to the state (20%). I am more confused than before and probably will end up waiting for a couple of weeks...  | | | | | The exact amount you owe in taxes will likely depend upon the details of your situation.
HR can tell you the Quellensteuer taken out of your paycheck as a foreigner is but your adjusted final tax also considers deductions/taxes for dependents, asset value, school expenses, company car or perks, transportation expenses, pension contribution, moving expenses, etc.
My tax advisor charges 300 CHF / hour and is highly trained to wade through the possible deductions, advantages, positioning strategies, foreign income implications etc. Certainly, you don't think that a quick 4 line post in a public forum will get you an exact figure of your tax liability.
I believe there are several threads with links to tax advisors who specialize in working with foreigners in Switzerland. It might be worth a try using the search function to do some investigation.
Welcome to Switzerland and the English Forum.
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02.08.2010, 20:00
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Broadly speaking - be aware that There are two levels of tax, both bundessteuer (federal) and the tax for the area in which you live. You need to add them together to get the total tax, then social security and pensions are on top.
Lisa
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02.08.2010, 21:08
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | Broadly speaking - be aware that There are two levels of tax, both bundessteuer (federal) and the tax for the area in which you live. You need to add them together to get the total tax, then social security and pensions are on top.
Lisa | | | | | That's what i thought too, especially as his link if for the federal taxes. But his calculation above lists both. Still it seems to be low to me. I would estimate 20-23% total deductions at the end of the day. Canton taxes are higher than fed taxes, no, IIRC?>
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02.08.2010, 21:25
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Search for Quellensteuer here on the forum and you'll get all the answers you need.
ESTV website is very reliable but only for those of us that don't pay Quellensteuer. You will, and thus the calculation is useless for you.
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02.08.2010, 21:46
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| | | Re: Is this correct? | Quote: | |  | | | Search for Quellensteuer here on the forum and you'll get all the answers you need.
ESTV website is very reliable but only for those of us that don't pay Quellensteuer. You will, and thus the calculation is useless for you. | | | | | Why? Are Quellensteuer different to normal income taxes? I always presumed they were the same.
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