Just drank the finest Swiss beer I have ever had yesterday called Sudwerk.
I tried the IPA I found in coop and it tasted like a cross between Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Fat Tire. FINALLY!!!! I can drink real beer again!
Not surprising to find out the guy is originally from California as it tastes like a beer straight out of the taps of your favorite micro brew back home. I may have to pay this guy a visit and see if I can get bulk discount. lol

Man, I would have been all over that if I were still living in Zurich. Spent 5 yrs looking for good beer, and didn't find too many...

fduvall

Nice that you noticed it, they have had it on stock for about a year now .

But I do agree that it is a great beer that tastes like the real American Ales. The "Western Rider" is my favourite.

That's a contradiction in terms. American Ale is, by definition, not Real Ale.

There are more contradictions there, like having words "American" and "great" in a sentence about beer...

I had given up hope a long time ago and it was buy accident that I saw it. I normally drink wine now.

ale (l)n.1. A fermented alcoholic beverage containing malt and hops, similar to but heavier than beer.
2. A serving of this beverage.

[Middle English, from Old English ealu, alu; see alu- in Indo-European roots.]


I have yet to find any English ale that can walk with some of the best American ales. English ales to me are too watery and they seem scared of displaying any "hoppyness". Granted I have not tried them all but I have tried many. I love hops, its what makes a great ale a great ale.

Where is this for sale?

cheers

Paul

Don't worry that is just your sad lack of knowledge when it comes to us craft beer.

In the camra definition maybe. American ales are in my view a distinct category, so you could speak about "real" american ales. Although they are not english.

Note the capitals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ale

HTH

Not sure if you have ever been to the US, but if you think that they are not brewing excellent beer then you need to visit.

Over the last 30 years microbreweries have been established everywhere. And as the OP mentions, the hoppy ales (IPAs) have gotten very popular. They are definitely my favorite.

fduvall

Hence the small caps on "real" in my post.

Time out, dudes.

Arguing about beer/ale is a colossal misuse of one's time. Shut up and just drink it.

Why do you think im "arguing" about it in the first place . "plop!"

In fairness to E. Neubauten it was you, not he, who added the capital.

Thanks. Although we must give credit to Ace1 for standing up for Real Ale. Salute! "plop!"

What do you mean, 'finally' a good Swiss beer?
Three words for you: Rapperswil Beer Brewery!

Most American Ales falls into this definition except the "matured by secondary fermentation in the container from which it is dispensed" part. But they are made with traditional ingredients (this can be argued as to what the tradional or original ingredients are) and are not carbonated, at least not artificially as some carbonation is a by product of fermentation.

Where are they? I will have to check them out next time I am in Rapperswil.

Check out www.bierfactory.ch

I like the Sudwerk beers - they're ok for session drinking. For a bit of interest I prefer the Rappi selection.

Cheers,
Nick