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I went to the Tandoor BBQ yesterday by Stockerstrasse tram stop for their buffet lunch and i can highly recommend it - lovely fish curry Mmmm
We should organize an event there. It would be nice.
There are lot of local indian dishes. Is the chef indian?

BTW, There's a bollywood party tommorrow at the restaurant.
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We should organize an event there. It would be nice.
There are lot of local indian dishes. Is the chef indian?

BTW, There's a bollywood party tommorrow at the restaurant.
oldhand arranged an EF there a while back
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Anyone been to Magic Masala on Kruggasse 4, 8001 Zurich close to Bellevue? What did the food taste like?

Was just trying to find the name for this place to recommend it. Yes I have been here several times and can recommend it. Small friendly cafe style atmosphere and they do a great lamb curry (I think it used to be Kobals 2) but has changed hands.

I really like Masala Dosa and I know Kobals and Madras Curry house in Oerlikon do Dosa - does anyone know of any other places that do them?
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We should organize an event there. It would be nice.
There are lot of local indian dishes. Is the chef indian?

BTW, There's a bollywood party tommorrow at the restaurant.
We already had one EF curry nite there in September Zurich Curry Night

There's another Curry Nite at Tandoor Haus in Seefeldstrasse Zurich Curry Night
on the 26th.
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A common problem with many Indian Restaurants

Would be good to see more South Indian restaurants in Switzerland. Some restauranters i believe think that 'South Indian cuisie on its own' will not sell on a regular basis, but they do sell like for eg Madras Curry House and Kobals in Zurich. There is such a wide variety of dishes in the cuisines of each of the 4 Southern states that a frequent customer would order a different kind of dish every time (its not like Oh it's boring to eat the same cuisine every time!). If the price is affordable, i'm sure many people would have their regular meals from there.

One problem i observed with Indian restauarants (both South and North cuisine) in Switzerland is that (most of them) have dishes in their Thalis and Buffets which are good on their own but do not combine with each other as a whole to make a great meal (a good Roast Dinner for eg needs a good gravy or something to bring the components together, enough empasis needs to be given to bringing the various dishes together into a tasty whole). And they should ensure that the different dishes in a Thali and to an extent in a Buffet are selected carefully so that they are in harmony with one another.

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Old 17.11.2009, 18:27
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One problem i observed with Indian restuarants in Switzerland (both South and North cuisine) is that (most of them) dishes that are good on their own but do not combine with each other as a whole to make a great meal (a good Roast Dinner for eg needs a good gravy to or something to bring them together, enough empasis needs to be given to bringing the various dishes together into a tasty meal overall), and try to make sure that the dishes in a Thali and to an extent in a Buffet are selected carefully so that they are in harmony with one another.
Sorry Viju, I would have to disagree with you mate. I think it comes down to personal taste. I don't know about South Indian thalis but a lot of the North Indian restaurants have a vast selection of dishes on their menus. They offer a selection of what one can eat in a North Indian house at a traditional meal.

I suppose the onus is on the guest to order the right thing. And if they are not aware of what does go well together, then the service should recommend a combination of dishes. I've eaten quite a few buffets and I feel they offer a good variety. A North Indian meal normally comprises a Meat/Chicken curry, Vegetable curry, a Daal accompanied by some sort of bread (naan, roti, parotha, bhatura), salad and pickle. And I have had this several times.
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Sorry Viju, I would have to disagree with you mate. I think it comes down to personal taste. I don't know about South Indian thalis but a lot of the North Indian restaurants have a vast selection of dishes on their menus. They offer a selection of what one can eat in a North Indian house at a traditional meal.

I suppose the onus is on the guest to order the right thing. And if they are not aware of what does go well together, then the service should recommend a combination of dishes. I've eaten quite a few buffets and I feel they offer a good variety.
Having eaten and relished Thalis and Buffets in many Indian restaurants in South and North India (Tamilnadu, Kerala, Andhra, Karanataka, Konkani, Oriya, Gujarati, Sindhi, Punjabi, Bengali or Mumbai style Thalis) all my life until i came to Europe, thats the impression i got.

Please note i was talking only of Thalis and to AN EXTENT Buffets. And i had also said 'so good as to be able to eat at a restaurant on a regular basis' context(which normally is the case with restaurants in India).

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A North Indian meal normally comprises a Meat/Chicken curry, Vegetable curry, a Daal accompanied by some sort of bread (naan, roti, parotha, bhatura), salad and pickle. And I have had this several times.
The type of dishes you've mentioned (meat curry, veg curry, Dhal etc) is super fine, but what i said has more to do with the taste and the conception in detail of the dishes and meal from a togetherness perspective. Kanchi in Lucerne is a super example of this problem, .., flavour of India in Kloten is also so to an extent, even Kerala's night Buffet has a bit of this problem.
Kings Kurry of old had a very good lunch Buffet, Tandoori BBQ though it has a very good Buffet is not at the level of Kings Kurry of old in this respect, Spice Gourmet though they have only a few dishes on their afternoon Buffet and Takeaway meals - are quite good.
That said, not all Indian restaurants have this problem, perhaps i should change the 'most' to 'many' until i sample all restaurants.
But I'm pretty confident my view has less to do with my personal likes and dislikes, and more to do with the conception of the meal.

You could perhaps give me an example of a restaurant that has a very good Thali, and i can sample it sometime and give my detailed feedback?.

Thali:
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http://images.google.ch/images?hl=en...=f&oq=&start=0

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Old 17.11.2009, 19:00
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There are lots of cheap Lankan joints if you want S Indian style food. Homestyle, not 'refined' fancy restaurant style.

The curries mix just fine too.
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I'll organise an event in Dec to one of these joints.
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There are lots of cheap Lankan joints if you want S Indian style food. Homestyle, not 'refined' fancy restaurant style.

The curries mix just fine too.
So spill the adresses...
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I went to the Tandoor BBQ yesterday by Stockerstrasse tram stop for their buffet lunch and i can highly recommend it - lovely fish curry Mmmm
Went to tandoor BBQ for buffet and was disappointed. But my colleagues liked it very much. Maybe i wouldn't have been disappointed if i had ala carte.
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I really like Masala Dosa and I know Kobals and Madras Curry house in Oerlikon do Dosa - does anyone know of any other places that do them?
Try King's Curry in Wiedikon and Cafe Gloria on Sunday mornings (Josefstrasse) 8005 Zurich - am not sure if Cafe Gloria still does the Masala Dosai. They did till about 6 months ago.

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The type of dishes you've mentioned (meat curry, veg curry, Dhal etc) is super fine, but what i said has more to do with the taste and the conception in detail of the dishes and meal from a togetherness perspective. I'm pretty confident my view has less to do with my personal likes and dislikes, and more to do with the conception of the meal.

You could perhaps give me an example of a restaurant that has a very good Thali, and i can sample it sometime and give my detailed feedback?.
Nice to hear about the many places you have travelled and eaten in India. I have too, but not only in India, in many countries around the world and it would be too long to list.

As I said in my previous post, I am not talking about Thalis. Punjabi cuisine does not offer Thalis. If you find a restaurant that offers a a Punjabi Thali, then it's certainly not traditional. For Thalis, perhaps someone from South India / Gujrat can assist you.

I'm a hotelier/restaurateur and don't need to rely on detailed feedback from others, but thank you for your offer. It's what I've been trained to do and do day in day out. Plus, I'm Punjabi and know Indian food professionally as well as in my personal life. I really don't understand what you mean by "conception in detail of dishes" and "from a togetherness perspective"?? What exactly do you mean? Please enlighten me.

Roast Beef with gravy is by the way, 1 dish, not several dishes. The Beef itself is one item in a dish. When you order it in a restaurant, the Roast Beef is served with gravy, Yorkshire puddings, roast potatoes and Veggies as 1 dish, not 1 meal. You certainly won't get Roast Beef on it's own on a plate without any trimmings. At least not that I have ever seen. That is and how it's always been served, be it at home or outside. What about European stews? What brings togetherness to a European stew? Are Stews served with extra gravy on the side? Of course not, they're served as a stew in it's sauce with a starch and a veg, just as a Chicken curry is with naan/roti and/or rice and salad. In Indian cuisine there are hundreds of condiments such as achaars, pickles, chutneys and salads that complete meals and bring them together. I find it very amusing that you think many Indian restaurants do not serve satisfactory "togetherness" food. What then would your thoughts be on the other cuisine that is served in Switzerland, French, English, Lebanese, Turkish, Japanese?

Do you mean to say that Indian cuisine should serve pre-plated food with a couple of curries, rice and bread all on 1 plate? If so, then yes, that's a Thali, South Indian food. If the combination of items on your Thali is not to your liking, simply order from the à la carte. I've had Thalis numerous times in India and they were generally good but nothing like ordering a variety of dishes from the à la carte or even better, eating at someone's home. I'm sure there are several clients who do enjoy a majority of dishes on their Thalis, in Switzerland as well. If not, they wouldn't sell them.

Unlike Atul Kochar's dishes at Benares or Alfred Prasad's dishes at Tamarind, both in London, which serve pre-plated Michelin Star Indian fusion food, that is not the culture in India, unless of course you order a Thali. Indian food generally does not follow the 'Meat & 2 Veg' custom.

As for buffets, I always have a good meal at Lady Hamilton on Tuesday nights (http://www.bestcurry.ch/) but it's a North Indian buffet, not a Thali.

To conclude, I'd be interested to know what Thalis in Switzerland lack in your point of view? What are they missing that does not bring this "togetherness." Perhaps the restuarants can add this item and better themselves. Is it an item, a dish, or is the taste simply not good enough? What do they do different in India? As people have different tastes and where one might prefer a Green lentil curry on their Thali to a Black lentil curry, would that not be a personal taste?

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Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

Without a doubt, the Magic Masala in Kruggasse 4 (8001 Zürich - not far from Bellevue). Fresh, authentic, absolutely delicious food at a very reasonable (for Zürich) price. Not your ten-a-penny "curry house" that you come across in every city, town and village in the UK. Unobtrusive, helpful and friendly staff & attentive service (there is usually only one waiter but he works very efficiently and with a warm smile that makes you forgive any slight delays in the arrival of your food if they're very busy!). I'm from the UK & a massive curry fan. Have tried umpteen Indian restaurants in Zürich and the world over and can confirm that the chicken chattinad here is one of the best Indian dishes I've ever tasted! The restaurant is in a great city centre location, but rents are high there — so support them or run the risk of losing them, which would be a great shame.
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Without a doubt, the Magic Masala in Kruggasse 4 (8001 Zürich - not far from Bellevue).
... and how long have you worked there?
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... and how long have you worked there?
Ha, ha, ha. I thought the idea of this forum was to give truthful feedback, which is what I tried to do. I am the first to criticise when things are rubbish, but also like to pass comment when I find something good. And that restaurant really is. But it's up to you to take it or leave it!
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But it's up to you to take it or leave it!
I took it and it was dreadful, so from now on I shall leave it.

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I took it and it was dreadful, so from now on I shall leave it.

Welcome to the forum, by the way.
What did you find so dreadful about it?
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Re: The best Indian curry in Zurich?

So here's a question, since I tend to be paying 100 CHF for a meal for two, what is the best value Indian food in ZRH? Something approaching reasonable prices?
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So here's a question, since I tend to be paying 100 CHF for a meal for two, what is the best value Indian food in ZRH? Something approaching reasonable prices?
Go to tandoor in seebach. Only place i like in zurich.
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