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Old 20.10.2014, 11:48
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I find that butchers tend to be able to source locally reared birds, whereas supermarkets buy bulk, usually from godknowswhere - often France; and I personally don't hold French animal husbandry in high regard.
The Migros Turkeys for pre-ordering are free-range Swiss birds.

The reason that they are quite small birds is because they're not force-fed antibiotics and growth hormones as in some other countries that enjoy Turkeys at festive occasions.
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Old 20.10.2014, 11:55
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The Migros Turkeys for pre-ordering are free-range Swiss birds.

The reason that they are quite small birds is because they're not force-fed antibiotics and growth hormones as in some other countries that enjoy Turkeys at festive occasions.
Yep, you can strike lucky, but it's not always guaranteed, for them to have any or many Swiss birds.

...... and for your reason stated, is why I prefer to pay a premium and buy Swiss.

The turkey breast roast is also a good idea.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

I started reading this out of curiosity and now I am starving...
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Old 21.10.2014, 01:00
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

For many years I made Beef Wellington, it is fairly easy to make, but difficult to meet everyone's likes, (between rare and well done). Last year I served lunch for 9 people, one was vegetarian, one couldn't eat flour... so you can begin to see the problems?

So I served a decent salad with a buffet of bits and pieces, croutons, salmon, shrimps, cheese, bits of chicken breast, nuts etc. etc. and so everyone could serve themselves and make a decent salad to their liking.

Then I served parsnips, carrots, peas, red cabbage, dauphinoise potatoes, Yorkshire puddings and gravy, again in a buffet form. With beef fillet steaks - cooked to order, rare, medium, or completely dead. I buy the beef on 21st or 22nd December in France, as it tends to sell out quickly. The vegetarian was given some mixed cheeses.

Pudding was home made Christmas pudding, warmed in the micro wave, with custard, or tinned peaches and cream.

My point is that most of the above can be made ahead, by unskilled help, and cooking it all is not a highly skilled event. A big plus for me is I am not left with half a cooked turkey in the fridge, and I have almost no stress.

Everyone was happy, and there wasn't much left over.
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Old 21.10.2014, 20:37
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Not meaning to Hijack the thread but any good pudding recipes ?
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Old 21.10.2014, 20:59
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Not meaning to Hijack the thread but any good pudding recipes ?
Use Kochbutter instead of suet, http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/c...s-pudding.html
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8 hours steaming it .. I am starting to come around to picking one up in M&S
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Ohhhhh yes a good stuffing recipe please, I shall do stuffed a good stuffed roast chicken if turkeys are sooo expensive over here....

This will be my first xmas spent living in CH and only my second year being responsible for cooking xmas dinner!!!

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Old 27.10.2014, 22:26
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

I have a good friend in Texas who always deep fries his 50 Lb Turkeys; he claims this is the best way to get a succulent cooked Turkey.
Chances of finding a large enough deep fryer in Switzerland must be very small.
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Old 28.10.2014, 01:50
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

If you must deep fry - watch these

http://www.eater.com/2013/11/27/6326...isaster-videos
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

https://produkte.migros.ch/m-classic-truthahn-ganz

Are these guys gutted?

Also, does anyone have a recipe for stuffing?

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Old 21.10.2015, 18:59
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

I have several - what are you looking for?
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I have several - what are you looking for?
Something with lemon in it, no other fruits if possible. Tons of herbs. Nuts are good too. Zopf if possible. No alcohol.

Note that I've never made stuffing before, so I have no idea what belongs in it.


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Something with lemon in it, no other fruits if possible. Tons of herbs. Nuts are good too. Zopf if possible. No alcohol.

Note that I've never made stuffing before, so I have no idea what belongs in it.


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IMO you need some fat, then sweet, savoury and maybe citrus flavours too. I always made sausage and pineapple stuffing. Finely chopped onions, salt and lots of pepper, parsley, bread crumbs, good sausage meat and finely chopped pineapple. You can add nuts to that too.
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IMO you need some fat, then sweet, savoury and maybe citrus flavours too. I always made sausage and pineapple stuffing. Finely chopped onions, parsley, bread crumbs, good sausage meat and finely chopped pineapple. You can add nuts to that too.
Could you give some amounts/ratios? Also, which sausage do you use?
And fresh rather than canned pineapple, I presume?
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which sausage do you use?
Ticinese or Italian, raw (crumbled and fried). Also, bacon. Sometimes oysters and/or clams (not with the sausage). Oyster in the crop, sausage in the main cavity, for example.

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Ticinese or Italian, raw (crumbled and fried). Also, bacon. Sometimes oysters and/or clams (not with the sausage). Oyster in the crop, sausage in the main cavity, for example.

Tom
Are the non-fish/seafood versions of your meat (Ticinese/Italian/raw sausage) easily found in Migros/Coop?
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Are the non-fish/seafood versions of your meat (Ticinese/Italian/raw sausage) easily found in Migros/Coop?
Yes.

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Something with lemon in it, no other fruits if possible. Tons of herbs. Nuts are good too. Zopf if possible. No alcohol.

Note that I've never made stuffing before, so I have no idea what belongs in it.


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Recipe coming up.

Parsley and Lemon Stuffing
50g/2oz butter
Finely grated rind and juice of 1 lemon
75g/3oz fresh brown or white breadcrumbs
4 tablespoons finely chopped parsley
Pinch of thyme or marjoram
Salt and freshly ground pepper

Melt butter in a saucepan over a low heat and add lemon juice.
Put all the other ingredients into a basin and mix well.
Stir in the lemon juice and melted butter until it is well incorporated and the stuffing is moist.
Spoon into breast or body of bird.
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Old 21.10.2015, 21:14
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75g/3oz fresh brown or white breadcrumbs
Breadcrumbs?

I use 2-3 loaves of fresh bread, coarsly chopped in a food precessor, and left to dry overnight (or two).

But then, I'm ususally stuffing 10kg+ birds.

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