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Breadcrumbs?

I use 2-3 loaves of fresh bread, coarsly chopped in a food precessor, and left to dry overnight (or two).

But then, I'm ususally stuffing 10kg+ birds.

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How much bread would you use for the turkey I linked to?
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Old 21.10.2015, 21:29
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Could you give some amounts/ratios? Also, which sausage do you use?
And fresh rather than canned pineapple, I presume?
I never weigh anything, just use judgement. But I guess about half a kg of English style sausage meat (you can get similar in Coop, just take the skin off), about 1 loaf of breadcrumbs (dried out well), 2 large onions finely chopped, lots of seasoning and herbs, 1 pineapple finely chopped (or 2 tins of crushed).

When I used to roast a turkey for 10 people I would loosen the skin from the breast and push the stuffing in the gap all the way back, about 1cm thick. This would stop the flesh from drying out. Then when the breast meat was cooked I would remove the breasts (with skin still on) and put into a separate dish covered with foil and turn up the heat so the legs and rest of the bird would cook through. I could then cut through the breasts so each slice would have meat, stuffing and crispy skin, like steaks. Left over stuffing I would roast on its own in a dish (with bacon wrapped dates on top) to serve with the leg meat.
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Old 21.10.2015, 21:43
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How much bread would you use for the turkey I linked to?
2.8kg is a large chicken, not a turkey!

But, anyway, 1/2 - 1 loaf (I liike to overstuff )

And, it's imported (never again, got one from Brazil once, tasted like fish )

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Old 21.10.2015, 21:58
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2.8kg is a large chicken, not a turkey!

But, anyway, 1/2 - 1 loaf (I liike to overstuff )

And, it's imported (never again, got one from Brazil once, tasted like fish )

Tom
Thanks - perhaps someone has a source for a Swiss (gutted) turkey aside from Migros? Must hop in to check the prices/sizes of said pre-order turkeys (see if they're compatible with a CH oven when stuffed )

It seems weird that Migros would let you pre-order Swiss turkeys, but only offer packaged imported ones.

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The Migros Turkeys for pre-ordering are free-range Swiss birds.

The reason that they are quite small birds is because they're not force-fed antibiotics and growth hormones as in some other countries that enjoy Turkeys at festive occasions.
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Old 21.10.2015, 22:05
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Must hop in to check the prices/sizes of said pre-order turkeys (see if they're compatible with a CH oven when stuffed )
I have fit a 14kg turkey in my Swiss oven no problem.

A tight fit, kitty-cornered, but it fit.

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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

I get mine from Migros. They have frozen ones and also do fresh nearer to Christmas. I assume they're Swiss, I certainly see enough of their poultry lorries heading to the Micarna factory in Courtepin.

And some of us only need a large chicken, sorry 2.8k turkey st2lemans. That's plenty for just two people.
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I get mine from Migros. They have frozen ones and also do fresh nearer to Christmas. I assume they're Swiss, I certainly see enough of their poultry lorries heading to the Micarna factory in Courtepin.

And some of us only need a large chicken, sorry 2.8k turkey st2lemans. That's plenty for just two people.
Might need some luck then for them to do them fresh now, but I'll go and ask. Yes, I'd rather not eat turkey until Easter
Was your fresh turkey gutted?
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Old 21.10.2015, 22:14
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Was your fresh turkey gutted?
Of course.

Who ever heard of an un-gutted bird (or other animal, other than fish) being sold?

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Of course.

Who ever heard of an un-gutted bird (or other animal, other than fish) being sold?

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I have not-so-fond memories of just that happening.
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It seems weird that Migros would let you pre-order Swiss turkeys, but only offer packaged imported ones.
I think, if I recall correctly, that Migros can no longer get the Swiss ones.

Last Christmas we ordered one from Co-op instead as the ones we saw there on display looked a marvellous nutty brown colour rather than an anaemic pale pink of others I have seen.

It tasted great too.
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Of course.

Who ever heard of an un-gutted bird (or other animal, other than fish) being sold?

Tom

Our butcher in the UK used to sell rabbits with guts, fur and all until they changed the law, banning it.
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Old 21.10.2015, 23:07
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Our butcher in the UK used to sell rabbits with guts, fur and all until they changed the law, banning it.
I've never seen an animal sold with guts.

(it would putrify really quickly if it were)

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I've never seen an animal sold with guts.

(it would putrify really quickly if it were)

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Yes, sorry- you're right about the guts. Definitely the fur though.

But I remember getting them as a kid whole - we used to gut them on scout camp. I guess they must have been really fresh.
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Might need some luck then for them to do them fresh now, but I'll go and ask. Yes, I'd rather not eat turkey until Easter
Was your fresh turkey gutted?
I get a frozen one each year. Usually around mid-November iirc. Fresh ones may be available then, but certainly would nearer Christmas. I look for a 2.8k one as that's enough for the two of us and only just fits into my oven anyway.
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I get a frozen one each year. Usually around mid-November iirc. Fresh ones may be available then, but certainly would nearer Christmas. I look for a 2.8k one as that's enough for the two of us and only just fits into my oven anyway.
Do you refreeze any leftovers or just eat them really quickly?


There's a 6kg frozen turkey sold in Migros, if I prepared that one I'd be eating it until next summer
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

You can order a fresh turkey in Migros, talk to the butcher and ask him where it's from. I prefer the small ones as I don't enjoy eating turkey for ever and a day.
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Yes, sorry- you're right about the guts. Definitely the fur though.

But I remember getting them as a kid whole - we used to gut them on scout camp. I guess they must have been really fresh.
Turkeys have no fur.

The duck we got on Saturday was drawn (i.e. no guts), but still with head, feet, and pluck.

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Do you refreeze any leftovers or just eat them really quickly?


There's a 6kg frozen turkey sold in Migros, if I prepared that one I'd be eating it until next summer
I'll usually plan one other meal over Christmas/New Year that uses some of the cooked turkey meat and refreeze the rest to be used later. As it's cooked it's fine for freezing again. Usually get 4/5 meals for two people out of a 2.8k turkey altogether.

Btw that parsley/lemon recipe is a quantity for stuffing a chicken so may need to be doubled up for a turkey.
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