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Christmas dinner - ideas

Read a few of the old threads on Christmas dinner but no inspiration.. Staying in CH this year. Inlaws are coming out.

What to do for dinner? I'm not shy of cooking anything, recipe or just made up but I just can't think of what to make. None of us are fancy pants, it doesn't need to be posh. Main rule is nobody (except me and the kids) likes fish.

Some kind of beef joint. pig joint, usual old fail safe turkey.. ? Any strange experience with getting the food bought?
Those from UK maybe familiar with the annual ritual of ordering stuff from M&S and queuing up around the block to collect it on the 23rd
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Why not do the old cheese soup thats so loved in these parts.

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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

My local Migros sells turkey's that can be ordered for pick up before Christmas. I'm sure they would let you order the joint of meat you want. Or maybe the local butchers too.
I so miss the lovely M&S Christmas food.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Turkey tends to be expensive in Switzerland, as you mention it as fail safe.

Fillet of lamb is often on special price at that time of seasonal year.

If you cross border shop, maybe pheasant from UK, treated as wild game.

Fillets of lamb, fillets of pork, or as some way off, maybe joints of beef or pork on specials closer to the time.

Think about what your starters and deserts will be, as well as decorations
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Old 19.10.2014, 23:18
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

given where you live a quick trip to France would yield a goose for a good price, did that last year, it was brilliant! Most of the french supermarkets will take a pre-order.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Christmas dinner=turkey, no exceptions.

With roast tatties, roast parsnips, sprouts fried/steamed with lardons and crumbled chestnuts, bacon-wrapped chipolatas, bread sauce, cranberry jelly, good rich gravy and a couple of other veggies of choice.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Never been a fan of roast turkey. Normally I get a gigot of lamb. Made my own Xmas pud the last few years from a Jamie Oliver recipe.

One year we did a raclette grill - we have one of those tabletop raclette BBQ things - and I prepare slices of marinaded meats, vegetables etc that people can grill and have alongside the cheese and tatties. It is festive enough with little preparation. It also meant we could just go for a nice walk on Xmas day and not slave over a hot stove.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Turkeys should only be ordered and bought from butchers' shops, with their house stuffing - although you will have to adapt that a bit to suit British tastes.

I have also made, as a change, a Beef Wellington/Bouef-en-Croute - a whole fillet, good pâté and bought puff pastry.

Alternatively, the supermarkets (seen in Migros and Aldi, possibly Coop) do have, on the run-up, a good quality pork fillet en croute/in teig, boxed, in the cool cabinet.

Also, Fondue Chinoise is a good, traditional alternative.
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Old 20.10.2014, 00:39
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

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Turkeys should only be ordered and bought from butchers' shops, with their house stuffing - although you will have to adapt that a bit to suit British tastes.

I have also made, as a change, a Beef Wellington/Bouef-en-Croute - a whole fillet, good pâté and bought puff pastry.

Alternatively, the supermarkets (seen in Migros and Aldi, possibly Coop) do have, on the run-up, a good quality pork fillet en croute/in teig, boxed, in the cool cabinet.

Also, Fondue Chinoise is a good, traditional alternative.
Also Beef Wellington/Bouef-en-Croute known in German as Fillet in Teig; any good butcher will take pre-orders for this.
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Read a few of the old threads on Christmas dinner but no inspiration.. Staying in CH this year. Inlaws are coming out.

What to do for dinner? I'm not shy of cooking anything, recipe or just made up but I just can't think of what to make. None of us are fancy pants, it doesn't need to be posh. Main rule is nobody (except me and the kids) likes fish.

Some kind of beef joint. pig joint, usual old fail safe turkey.. ? Any strange experience with getting the food bought?
Those from UK maybe familiar with the annual ritual of ordering stuff from M&S and queuing up around the block to collect it on the 23rd



http://www.about.ch/culture/food/zue...netzeltes.html


this is the recipe of the National Meal of Zürich


and here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1v4BYV-YvA


the most popular Thing at yearend in Switzerland and Germany


and here a very popular meal


http://www.about.ch/culture/food/pastetli.html






and somehing equally popular
http://www.about.ch/culture/food/sauerkraut.html




and another one


http://www.mamas-rezepte.de/rezept_S...f-28-1169.html

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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Did you see this thread for ideas?

Your Christmas Dinner "Meat" - what, why and where?
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Did you see this thread for ideas?

Your Christmas Dinner "Meat" - what, why and where?


BUT that thread was about imported ideas


while THESE things are local





http://www.about.ch/culture/food/zue...netzeltes.html
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http://www.about.ch/culture/food/pastetli.html
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http://www.about.ch/culture/food/sauerkraut.html
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http://www.mamas-rezepte.de/rezept_S...f-28-1169.html
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http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/12999...lbsbraten.html
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Turkeys should only be ordered and bought from butchers' shops, with their house stuffing.
Why?

In nearly 30 years of ordering turkeys here, only one has been ordered through a butcher, and NEVER pre stuffed.

I generally order them from Manor a week ahead of time.

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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Surf n turf!! Get some live Canadian lobster from Aligro (on special last Christmas for 20 CHF a lobster) and some beef filet. Serve with a side potato or Caesar salad and fresh rolls. A great alternative from a traditional roast dinner.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

I remember a couple of years ago when I was sent on Christmas eve to get a turkey. There was some family strop of something and we were not having Christmas dinner until the black cloud moved on.

Anyway, to avoid any TL;DR, I found the last turkey in an Italian supermarket. The_Last_One.

It cost me only €53 and I seem to remember it was around 12-14kg. It was certainly bigger than most would expect as the Italians were like flies around a dog poo while I was checking out.

"How many people?"
"How long will you be eating turkey for?"
"That's bigger than me!" (Italians are often small people )

Anyway, I arrived home with it and was asked why I got such a big one. Story told, it was prepped and measured for the oven.

And it would not fit.

After some carving and removing of the legs, it went in and was oh-so-nearly-too-big-still. But it went it, it cooked and was eaten.

Anyway, I hate Christmas, I hate turkey but that's tradition so that's what we have to have.

If you're going to do turkey, don't leave sourcing the bird until the 24th. Otherwise you'll be eating turkey in January.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Most of those were imported at some time.

And let's face it - they're a bit dull for a festive meal.
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Re: Christmas dinner - ideas

Local butchers can normally source Turkey breasts - which are large enough to stuff, wrap and cook in <2 hours - and serve 4-6 people.
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Why?

In nearly 30 years of ordering turkeys here, only one has been ordered through a butcher, and NEVER pre stuffed.

I generally order them from Manor a week ahead of time.

Tom
I find that butchers tend to be able to source locally reared birds, whereas supermarkets buy bulk, usually from godknowswhere - often France; and I personally don't hold French animal husbandry in high regard.

I also don't buy pre-stuffed, but the stuffing comes in a bag, so I can add other stuff to it (it's predominantly sausage meat, which is a good base).

...... and Manor isn't a supermarket - it's a department store with a food department, which in general - and with Manor specifically - tends to provide better quality produce, often at a higher price.
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...... and Manor isn't a supermarket
Depends where you live - Chur has a Manor Solo (Supermarket), as does Luzern and Viganello
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. . . and NEVER pre stuffed.
Ditto that . . . never ever buy stuffing . . .I always make my own and never regret it. . . if you need a recipe let me know
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