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Old 11.01.2015, 23:16
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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

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Old 11.01.2015, 23:18
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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

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You're equating a warning about the very real risk of campylobacter infection with Howard Hughes? Did you even read the article in the link I posted? In case you were discouraged by thinking that it was an American article (and hence, obviously paranoid and irrational ), then perhaps I should point out that it is located on the website of the Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute.

And as for your ski comment... Are you saying, then, that it is wise to let your children play with long, pointy forks? I didn't say that children shouldn't use forks. I simply implied that they should be taught to use them carefully. I think that, for most parents, though -- that's kind of "a given."

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Re: Taking the kids for fondu

What she said! You will spend less by buying your own equipment and control the experience a bit better. I make fondue every Boxing Day for my nieces since they were about 3yrs. 6 yrs later, they can't wait for it!

And here is what they bought me for Christmas this year.

http://www.steinlin-products.ch/Shop...x#.VLLtfMbK5y8

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If your kids are not fussy eaters and can eat dairy, then this can be quite an exciting meal for them. Incidentally, we had our first fondue in Switzerland yesterday at our neighbour's place and all the kids (5 of them from 3 to 5.5 years old) had lots of fun dunking bread and pears in the cheesy mixture.

I'd second having a fondue at home - it is not that tricky - you can buy a fondue set for less than a hundred francs. It will be more fun doing it at home, as (a) you can choose what to add in the fondue - we had champagne for the grown ups and apple juice in the kids' version; and (b) you can choose what you want to have with the fondue (we had bread and pears for dipping, with mais, cornichons and asperge tips on the side).

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Old 12.01.2015, 00:14
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Re: Taking the kids for fondue

Don't use chicken with fondue chinoise, as it's usually not hot enough to kill the various bacteria sitting on chicken meat.

As for kids: a traditional cheese fondue has quite a bit of alcohol in there: the kirsch, the white wine.
My cheese-monger suggested 200g per person - but I agree that it's really a dish that would suggest a serious workout before and after its consumption...

When we were kids, we always had the fondue bourgignonne.
Parents reminded us that we needed to be very careful with the hot oil or a catastrophe might happen.
Used an alcohol burner to keep it hot, on top of it.
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Re: Taking the kids for fondue

Absolute love cheese but not fondue. Still trying to figure....
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Old 12.01.2015, 09:08
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Don't use chicken with fondue chinoise, as it's usually not hot enough to kill the various bacteria sitting on chicken meat.

As for kids: a traditional cheese fondue has quite a bit of alcohol in there: the kirsch, the white wine.
My cheese-monger suggested 200g per person - but I agree that it's really a dish that would suggest a serious workout before and after its consumption...

When we were kids, we always had the fondue bourgignonne.
Parents reminded us that we needed to be very careful with the hot oil or a catastrophe might happen.
Used an alcohol burner to keep it hot, on top of it.
Wow, and you're not even American!!!
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Old 12.01.2015, 09:17
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Old 12.01.2015, 09:18
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Don't use chicken with fondue chinoise, as it's usually not hot enough to kill the various bacteria sitting on chicken meat.

As for kids: a traditional cheese fondue has quite a bit of alcohol in there: the kirsch, the white wine.
My cheese-monger suggested 200g per person - but I agree that it's really a dish that would suggest a serious workout before and after its consumption...

When we were kids, we always had the fondue bourgignonne.
Parents reminded us that we needed to be very careful with the hot oil or a catastrophe might happen.
Used an alcohol burner to keep it hot, on top of it.
What is readily available, for fondue Chinoise, is turkey, more than chicken, as it doesn't disintegrate as easily. Obviously, being poultry, there are still the same concerns, but as long as it's the right thinness (not too thick), there should be no problem having it cooked safely. My bouillon bubbles.

Regarding wine and kirsch in cheese fondue, if done properly and added a bit at a time (wine), most of the alcohol should cook off (steam).

It doesn't detract too much from authenticity, to omit the kirsch, and white wine can be diluted with water, without any adverse effects.

In fact I know someone who just uses water in preference to wine and doesn't get separation or curdling.
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Old 12.01.2015, 09:30
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Fondue au fromage (cheese fondue- and there are many versions)

Fondue chinoise : meat cooked in stock

Fondue Bourguignonne : meat cooked in oil

With Bourguignonne and chesse fondue- supervision is required as well as swapping to another fork than the one used in the pot.
Young kids rarely enjoy cheese fondue- I'd say from age 8 onwards. Also, much better to have fondue in a simple mountain inn after a bik walk, or ski, sledge, etc, in the snow. Never makes sense to me to see people eating a cheese fondue in a restaurant in central Zurich or Geneva (or Neuchâtel even!).
4 types..
Fondue Vigneronne: meat cooked in wine. The wikipedia article says white wine, but when I have had it, it was red wine

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Old 12.01.2015, 09:32
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Fondue Vigneronne: meat cooked in red white wine.
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Re: Taking the kids for fondue

I hated fondue with a passion until last christmas when we had it at a neighbours party outside, in the freezing cold over an open fire with lots of people jostling for position, and then it all made perfect sense and tasted just fine. Kids didnt like it though.....Best to try it at home or as someone suggested in some small mountain restuarant after a cold day outside.
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Old 12.01.2015, 09:53
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Re: Taking the kids for fondue

Don't think it's been mentioned so far, but cold beer (or any cold fizzy drink) should be avoided when eating cheese fondue.

Only small glasses of white wine and hot tea, if you don't want a solid lump of partly digested fat in your gut.
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Don't think it's been mentioned so far, but cold beer (or any cold fizzy drink) should be avoided when eating cheese fondue.

Only small glasses of white wine and hot tea, if you don't want a solid lump of partly digested fat in your gut.
Funny, my husband always drinks beer with it, and he is Swiss.

Mind you, he drinks beer with everything.
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Funny, my husband always drinks beer with it, and he is Swiss.

Mind you, he drinks beer with everything.
I sometimes do, too - but I've been reliably informed .....

[you tend to notice the next morning]

...... and especially the kids.
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Re: Taking the kids for fondue

Another tip we learnt on Saturday is that it is also quite acceptable to have fondue in summer, BUT in August/ September AND in a place quite high up the mountain (above 1800m or so). According to our neighbour, around that time, you get very fresh cheese which gives one of the best fondue. I, for one, can't wait to try it
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Re: Taking the kids for fondue

For a first try it probably is better indeed to try at home to see if you have a winner. Fondue is one of the easiest meals to prepare.

When we were kids warm black tea used to be mandatory (I think we never had black tea on other occasions) as it helps avoid cheese clots in the stomach (probably simply by being warm, not because it's tea). Additional side dishes like veggies will also help to that end.
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Re: Taking the kids for fondue

Slightly off topic: I had fondue at Frau Gerolds last Friday, and it was excellent. I don't even like the stuff that much, but I did enjoy this one.

http://www.fraugerold.ch/frau-gerolds-winterstube/

Booking necessary, it was full to the rafters
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Don't think it's been mentioned so far, but cold beer (or any cold fizzy drink) should be avoided when eating cheese fondue.

Only small glasses of white wine and hot tea, if you don't want a solid lump of partly digested fat in your gut.
Strangely enough, this is what we were always told as kids- and, yes, I did mention it on one of my posts above...but the BMJ (British Medical Journal) actually did a piece of research, as a bit of a joke, some years back- and came to the conclusion it made little difference for most people. Might have been the problem for DB in the days he enjoyed a beer, or two

so 5 kinds of fondue listed so far + chocolate one. (fondue, bourguignonne, chinoise, bressane and vigneronne- never tried the last one).

Of course in Switzerland the favourite meat for fondue is horse.

BTW, if anyone in the Neuch area wants to borrow fondue pots for either meat of cheese fondue (earthenware versus metal)- or a raclette machine or 2, the portion type with little dishes, or indeed the big machine which takes 2 half cheeses for a group, just ask, we are quite well equipped here
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