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Travel to France for Wine

Hi Does anyone travel from Switzerland to France to stock up on wine?

is there any issues doing this?
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Re: Travel to France for Wine

Just the normal customs limits .. you can bring thousands if you follow them
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Hi Does anyone travel from Switzerland to France to stock up on wine?

is there any issues doing this?
You can bring 5 liters of weakly alcoholic drinks (<18%) per person per day across the border, so that should not be a big issue.

The chance of being stopped at the border is very low, so it should be a smooth trip.
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You can bring 5 liters of weakly alcoholic drinks (<18%) per person per day across the border, so that should not be a big issue.

The chance of being stopped at the border is very low, so it should be a smooth trip.
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Re: Travel to France for Wine

I have noticed in other threads people who refer to buying wine cross border. I seemed to be under the impression that they had contact to get direct from vineyard or maybe they knew a particular shop.

Would be interested to know where they got them from?

So far we have been happy to keep a look out with Denner and their special offers throughout the year.
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I have noticed in other threads people who refer to buying wine cross border. I seemed to be under the impression that they had contact to get direct from vineyard or maybe they knew a particular shop.

Would be interested to know where they got them from?

So far we have been happy to keep a look out with Denner and their special offers throughout the year.
In the Pays de Gex region in France near Geneva there are a couple of winetasting events throughout the year (salon du vin). It's basically an exposition of various wineries. You pay a small entry fee and you can then go around tasting all kinds of wines and if you like something, buy it directly.

In Switzerland, I've seen similar events (both near Geneva and in Valais), called "caves ouverts" (open caves), which is a group of wineries in an area offering winetasting on their own grounds. Less "efficient" than the centralized expositions in the Pays de Gex, but they make for a nice daytrip by bike.
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Re: Travel to France for Wine

I find buying wine here, on average, good value. I sometimes cycle over to France to stock up on Alsace wines that aren't available here in Basel, but apart from that Denner, Coop (especially the very regular 20%-off-all-wines that Coop does) and Manor (which often has select wines at half price) beat prices in other countries.
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I find buying wine here, on average, good value. I sometimes cycle over to France to stock up on Alsace wines that aren't available here in Basel, but apart from that Denner, Coop (especially the very regular 20%-off-all-wines that Coop does) and Manor (which often has select wines at half price) beat prices in other countries.
It does depend what you buy. I saved about 45% buying in France and reclaiming tax - Champagne 80chf here, 43chf after duty and taxes from France.

Buying direct at a vineyard gives even better savings.
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Re: Travel to France for Wine

Problem is, is the driving, as it's always advisable to sample before buying.

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Re: Travel to France for Wine

Denner has the 20% discount on wine today and tomorrow.
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Re: Travel to France for Wine

If you fancy a stop on the drive back to Blighty, Epernay is excellent. Lots of independent Champagne houses, where you can try before you buy and get delicious bottles for 18 Euros, while supporting the small producer.
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Re: Travel to France for Wine

I often use Freund & Fils in Hegenheim for my wine -- they are just over the border and have a (French-speaking) sommelier on hand to offer advice. Their wines are well-aged, exclusively French, with a good selection of local Alsacian wines. Apart from the Alsacian bottles, which are typically under EUR10 a bottle, they specialize in middle-to-upper market wines (EUR20 - EUR100+ a bottle) with a good selection of Bordeaux and Burgundy.

The best part of dealing with Freund is that they are geared up for Swiss customers. They have a separate, ex-tax price list for export orders and they will charge you this ex-tax price (they have special arrangements with the local customs office -- you must pass the frontier and declare the goods at the Allschwil crossing, but by doing this they can sell to you tax-free (as opposed to paying the tax, exporting the goods, and claiming back the tax -- as you would normally do).

I used to import 20 liters at a time (that's roughly the tipping point where the import duty gets more expensive). I live close to the border, so importing 20 liters at a time made sense; if I lived farther away, I would probably import as much as I wanted and simply pay the extra duty, as it would be cheaper than making a second trip from, eg, Zurich.

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Re: Travel to France for Wine

If you want to drink French xxxx ...
Now if you want good Swiss wine, I recommend a trip to Valais & stay here http://www.collinededaval.ch/fr/pres...astel-de-daval
It is gorgeous.
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Re: Travel to France for Wine

If you're going to "travel", may as well go to Beaune in Burgundy. Wonderful food, tons of wine vendors. And you go sampling in the villages around the area and find the best prices on what is some of the best wine on the planet. Vosne-Romanée and Nuit St-Georges, and Pommard are not to be missed. It's about a 3 hour drive to get there though.
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