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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

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Neither does the OP's olive oil.

OP - Were you happy with the oil before you read the label? Does it taste any different now that you have? What's changed?
Oh, I've known about the misleading labeling for a long time, only now a Swiss consumers magazine is running a story about that. I thought you might find it useful.

Do you remember the beef lasagna with horsemeat? It tasted great (I ate it), but that's not the point.
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Oh, I've known about the misleading labeling for a long time, only now a Swiss consumers magazine is running a story about that. I thought you might find it useful.

Do you remember the beef lasagna with horsemeat? It tasted great (I ate it), but that's not the point.
The oils you have mentioned are not misleading. By law they need to specify on the label that the oil comes from another place other than Italy.

Other than that, it's pretty easy to spot a non-Italian oil: price.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

These sort of descriptions may not be illegal but they are deliberately misleading in my opinion.

One example that I have seen is Emmental cheese, produced in France, Czech Republic or Holland. These are clearly not true Emmental
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http://www.bonasavoir.ch/actu_online...=921755&page=1

The Primadonna (Lidl) bottle I have at home says "bottled in Italy" but also "made from a mix of oils from EU countries."
I can only recommend spanish olive oil. Jan produces the majority of the spanish olive oil and you can find bottles from there in coop and migros.
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The oils you have mentioned are not misleading. By law they need to specify on the label that the oil comes from another place other than Italy.

Other than that, it's pretty easy to spot a non-Italian oil: price.
I quoted myself because I used the wrong English term. Yeah, I meant they aren't illegal if they specify that the oil comes from another place. But they do use wording and graphics that induce a layman think it's made in Italy.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

I'm with the OP on this. The fact that you still like what's inside doesn't mean a lot of labels aren't misleading the customers.

It should be clearer where the product comes from, at least as clear as to where it's been bottled or packed.

It's false advertising.
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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Everyone in Italy knows that unless it specifically states that it's made from Italian olives, it's not.

I guess only foreigners are confused by the labeling.

Also, most thing made in Switzerland are made from source material that is NOT produced in Switzerland (Buendnerfleish and anything made from gold being prime examples), so how is this different?

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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

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Everyone in Italy knows that unless it specifically states that it's made from Italian olives, it's not.



Tom
But Tom, how is it relevant in CH what the italians know?

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Re: Some Italian olive oil actually comes from other countries

Why bother with Italian olive oil if Greek Kalamata olive oil is better and cheaper?

7.99 CHF for 700ml at Aldi or 9.99 CHF at Migros.
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Why bother with Italian olive oil if Greek Kalamata olive oil is better and cheaper?

7.99 CHF for 700ml at Aldi or 9.99 CHF at Migros.
Interesting I didn't know that, and this article seems to support the information to https://olivesandbeyond.wordpress.co.../for-the-home/

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Which is the difference between Greek, Italian, Spanish and extra virgin olive oil brands?

The most important is the taste difference. This because the olive trees in these countries belong to different species. Also, taste is often based on soil conditions and climate. Greece has the best climate all over the world and especially Kalamata. This why the extra virgin olive oil form Kalamata is PDO. Protected Destination of Origin. It is choosen as the best extra virgin olive oil brand and no other country can use the name Kalamata or Koroneiki.

Even if you are not a professional olive oil taster, you can understand the difference between our best taste of extra virgin olive oil than other country of origin olive oils. It is more fresh the olive oil, has the lowest acidity, best colour and aroma.

Consumer of extra virgin olive oil surveys have shown that choose Greek olive oil, in other words is the best olive oil to choose! But let’s briefly cover the differences between our best quality extra virgin olive oil and the other different types of olive oil.

Greek Olive Oil vs. Spanish Olive oil vs. Italian Olive Oil

I will make two points that are known to olive oil experts. First, Italy as a country it consumes and export more olive oil than actually produce. Easily you can understand that Italian olive oil producers often have to import oil from Greece and Spain etc. ! They are the best on marketing the best brands of imported olive oil. But can happen the Italian olive oil you find in supermarkets actually come or be mixed with olive oils from other countries. In worse cases they can be mixed with other bad oils…
Will try some out.

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Actually, the title of this thread is misleading, as it's NOT the olive oil that comes from other countries, but the olives used to make the oil.

And also "Some" is incorrect, the correct word is "Most".

Does anyone question that Motorex gets their stock to make their "Swiss" motor oil from sources outside Switzerland?

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Interesting I didn't know that, and this article seems to support the information to https://olivesandbeyond.wordpress.co.../for-the-home/
It's not an article, it's some self-promotional BS from the Indian importer.

Tom

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It's not an article, it's some self-promotional BS from the Indian importer.

Tom
Ok stit2lemans, how about this article http://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-o...rld-best/39515

No need to get your knickers in a twist just because you now realise you aren't buying the best of something.
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Get a grip you lot.

When you buy a Mars bar, you do realise it doesn't actually come from Mars, don't you?

wtf? i want my money back!
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Will try some out.
Last years Gourmesse had over 100 olive oils from various contries for tasting. Maybe they will do the same this October.
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Actually, the title of this thread is misleading, as it's NOT the olive oil that comes from other countries, but the olives used to make the oil.
Not so. Olive oil is a fruit juice and, as such, it must be pressed right after collection. If they shipped the unprocessed olives, by the time they arrived they'd be useless.

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That's what Bon savoir says ("L'huile italienne vient parfois d'ailleurs"). Parfois = sometimes
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These sort of descriptions may not be illegal but they are deliberately misleading in my opinion.

One example that I have seen is Emmental cheese, produced in France, Czech Republic or Holland. These are clearly not true Emmental
Then you can imagine my horror at seeing Gruyre cheese "from Langenthal" in a New York deli.
I was most distressed.
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Can someone then please recommend a good and well-priced olive oil for cooking and salads etc that is 100% Italian? Available in Switzerland, of course...
The 100% italian oil does not exists. Perhaps in the little and local producters in Italy. But no in the big and medium size brands that export tons of oil. If you want an original oil try the spanish one it is as good as the italian one.

A medium consumer does not find differences. All the olive oil that you can find in Switzerland is good the brand does not matter. You have to pay attention to the variety and if the oil is refined or not, that is all.
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Not so. Olive oil is a fruit juice and, as such, it must be pressed right after collection. If they shipped the unprocessed olives, by the time they arrived they'd be useless.

That's what Bon savoir says ("L'huile italienne vient parfois d'ailleurs"). Parfois = sometimes
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The 100% italian oil does not exists. Perhaps in the little and local producters in Italy. But no in the big and medium size brands that export tons of oil. If you want an original oil try the spanish one it is as good as the italian one.

A medium consumer does not find differences. All the olive oil that you can find in Switzerland is good the brand does not matter. You have to pay attention to the variety and if the oil is refined or not, that is all.
Tests have shown much of the olive oil sold as extra virgin isn't actually EV anyway, regardless of claimed origin. So I wouldn't fret over Greek/Italian/Spanish. I'd just find one you like that works for your needs and budget and go with it.
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These sort of descriptions may not be illegal but they are deliberately misleading in my opinion.

One example that I have seen is Emmental cheese, produced in France, Czech Republic or Holland. These are clearly not true Emmental
Emmental is like the word cheddar - there are abominations of the cheese available in a lurid orange colour from the U.S. and other places.

The phrase "Emmental Switzerland" is protected and cannot be used for cheeses produced outside Switzerland.

I'm not sure why the single word Emmental was not protected?

Parmigiano-Reggiano is protected as is Brie de Meaux so when you buy a product labelled as such, you're getting the real deal.
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